How safe is it to go to tournaments right now?
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Feb 29, 2020
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#63
If one is afraid of Corona infection, a mask and pair of gloves is sufficient for protection.
i don't know what the big deal is. trump has declared that in april the virus will be destroyed due to warmer weather.
why wouldn't we believe him?
Feb 29, 2020
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#65
AlCzervik wrote:
i don't know what the big deal is. trump has declared that in april the virus will be destroyed due to warmer weather.
why wouldn't we believe him?
Raking the leaves reduced the chances of wildfires and hence warmer weather.
he never did get around to nuking the hurricanes.
yet.
halfalfa wrote:
You could try taking a supplement like Airborne and getting plenty of rest before the trip so your immune system is in top shape.
There's always heightened risk of catching the flu this time of year in the US, but it doesn't seem to be worse than any other year.
Don't buy Airborne or products like it. They're a scam that do absolutely nothing. Get a flu shot, since that's scientifically proven and approved by the FDA. But that won't help with coronavirus.
Fromper wrote:
halfalfa wrote:
You could try taking a supplement like Airborne and getting plenty of rest before the trip so your immune system is in top shape.
There's always heightened risk of catching the flu this time of year in the US, but it doesn't seem to be worse than any other year.
Don't buy Airborne or products like it. They're a scam that do absolutely nothing. Get a flu shot, since that's scientifically proven and approved by the FDA. But that won't help with coronavirus.
I wouldn't buy anything with the words 'airborne' at the moment. That's like a bad sign. Haven't you guys watched Final Destination. Girl buys Airborne supplements, gets coronavirus, makes the 7 o clock news holding up an Airborne box, becomes meme, trump tweets about it.
Mar 1, 2020
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#69
Lol last tournament I played we could not shake hands due to the coronavirus!
WSama wrote:
Fromper wrote:
halfalfa wrote:
You could try taking a supplement like Airborne and getting plenty of rest before the trip so your immune system is in top shape.
There's always heightened risk of catching the flu this time of year in the US, but it doesn't seem to be worse than any other year.
Don't buy Airborne or products like it. They're a scam that do absolutely nothing. Get a flu shot, since that's scientifically proven and approved by the FDA. But that won't help with coronavirus.
I wouldn't buy anything with the words 'airborne' at the moment. That's like a bad sign. Haven't you guys watched Final Destination. Girl buys Airborne supplements, gets coronavirus, makes the 7 o clock news holding up an Airborne box, becomes meme, trump tweets about it.
Shrub Junior retweets: Oh stink, girl. You've got the coroners.
In the U.S. the Center for Disease Control (CDC) website - provides guidance and recommended preventive measures for health care facilities and health care personnel (HPC) against Coronoa Virus - COVID-19 (where CO = Corona, VI=virus D=Disease, 19=2019). If you decide to wear a mask, (probably a good idea in confined spaces where you are together in close proximity with many people/strangers) the CDC recommended mask is the N95 mask/respirator - it is referenced and recommended on the CDC website....
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infection-control/control-recommendations.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fhcp%2Finfection-control.html
I believe 3M company is largest manufacture of the N95 mask in the U.S.
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/?N=5002385+8707795+8707798+8710839+8711017+8711100+3294857497/
https://workersafety.3m.com/n95-respirator-dust-mask-walk-into-bar/
Some common sense precautions to minimize the possibility of infection by the virus in crowded, confined places:
1. Don't touch your face!
2. Wash your hands frequently.
3. Stay away from people who are coughing/sneezing and appear to have a runny nose (aka the 'sniffles')
4. Consider wearing a N95 mask/respirator as described in the links above.
Worldwide death toll is up to 3000 https://www.yahoo.com/gma/global-death-toll-coronavirus-reaches-nearly-3-000-145800588--abc-news-topstories.html
Pretty much everything we hear about this virus is from the mainstream media. In the 70's Leonard Nimoy - amongst others - was "warning" about the next ice age. Now we have the cult of St Greta...In the 70's we were all going to get AIDS, then later on bird flu; that is if the hole in the ozone layer wasn't going to get us and "Peak Oil" wasn't going make travel prohibitive.
But yeas folks, keep believing what the msm tell us because I'm sure they have our best interests at heart, and besides newsreaders are such well dressed and good looking folks; we must believe them. I'm pretty sure they are completely unbiased and that the Rothschild "Reuters" news agency will have absolutely no ties to intelligence agencies or any other geopolitical machinations.
I wouldn't buy any masks......their all "Made In China"......
btickler wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
I didn't read all of your response, it was just too long. But I did notice the top story when I signed on a few minutes ago. The CDC says the virus can last on inanimate objects for up to 9 days. So to me it's just common sense that closing a school, or canceling a chess tournament are reasonable and not fear mongering. If they are right and it really can last for 9 days without any human contact, then it seems possible some of these no know origin cases could be from buying something online or some other casual non person contact.
Here's what the CDC actually says about how to handle things (will this also be too long for you to read? If so, then I think we've found the real problem here):
There is currently no vaccine to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus. However, as a reminder, CDC always recommends everyday preventive actions to help prevent the spread of respiratory diseases, including:
- Avoid close contact with people who are sick.
- Avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth.
- Stay home when you are sick.
- Cover your cough or sneeze with a tissue, then throw the tissue in the trash.
- Clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces using a regular household cleaning spray or wipe.
- Follow CDC’s recommendations for using a facemask.
- CDC does not recommend that people who are well wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory diseases, including COVID-19.
- Facemasks should be used by people who show symptoms of COVID-19 to help prevent the spread of the disease to others. The use of facemasks is also crucial for health workers and people who are taking care of someone in close settings (at home or in a health care facility).
- Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds, especially after going to the bathroom; before eating; and after blowing your nose, coughing, or sneezing.
- If soap and water are not readily available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol. Always wash hands with soap and water if hands are visibly dirty.
Thats definitely better. When your response is too long and too boring, nobody is going to read it. All those recommendations are great and common sense says to do them as much as possible. But my point was about what else is being said by scientists and the CDC. We agree that "real" sources are ones we should trust, right? If this virus can last on inanimate objects for up to 9 days like they say it can, then isn't it reasonable to assume that it's possible some of these "no known origin" cases might be from casual non person to person contact? Such as buying something online, touching an elevator button, ATM, handling cash, etc. If it's really possible the virus can last that long then things like opening the mail, touching things at the grocery store, air travel, or going out to a restaurant could put a person at risk also. For now, in our area, closing a school seems like a pretty reasonable thing to do. Even the national government says closing a local school is the prudent thing to do.
lfPatriotGames wrote:
Thats definitely better. When your response is too long and too boring, nobody is going to read it. All those recommendations are great and common sense says to do them as much as possible. But my point was about what else is being said by scientists and the CDC. We agree that "real" sources are ones we should trust, right? If this virus can last on inanimate objects for up to 9 days like they say it can, then isn't it reasonable to assume that it's possible some of these "no known origin" cases might be from casual non person to person contact? Such as buying something online, touching an elevator button, ATM, handling cash, etc. If it's really possible the virus can last that long then things like opening the mail, touching things at the grocery store, air travel, or going out to a restaurant could put a person at risk also. For now, in our area, closing a school seems like a pretty reasonable thing to do. Even the national government says closing a local school is the prudent thing to do.
You misunderstand me. I did not post the CDC recommendations to give you something shorter you can handle with your limited attention span. If you are bored with <1 page of writing, then that's a personal issue...and, if you can't handle that much text, then you aren't going to read the CDC info anyway, and deserve what you get.
I posted them because you continue, as you just did again, to take disparate bits of info from different sources/briefings/FAQs and then extrapolate them into something beyond what the CDC is actually recommending.
"If this virus can last on inanimate objects for up to 9 days like they say it can"
Lots of viruses can last for days on a surface with the right environment/conditions. If you can find any health official warning the public to be careful with their overseas packages, go ahead and put it up. If you can find "the national government" (you always use the vaguest terms with no support at all in your ramblings) recommending local school closures in the last week of February, go ahead and post it. Otherwise, you're just pumping out more BS.
CDC:
"Close contact is defined as—
a) being within approximately 6 feet (2 meters) of a COVID-19 case for a prolonged period of time; close contact can occur while caring for, living with, visiting, or sharing a health care waiting area or room with a COVID-19 case
– or –
b) having direct contact with infectious secretions of a COVID-19 case (e.g., being coughed on)
If such contact occurs while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment or PPE (e.g., gowns, gloves, NIOSH-certified disposable N95 respirator, eye protection), criteria for PUI consideration are met”
See CDC’s updated Interim Healthcare Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations for Persons Under Investigation for 2019 Novel Coronavirus.
Data to inform the definition of close contact are limited. Considerations when assessing close contact include the duration of exposure (e.g., longer exposure time likely increases exposure risk) and the clinical symptoms of the person with COVID-19 (e.g., coughing likely increases exposure risk as does exposure to a severely ill patient). Special consideration should be given to those exposed in health care settings."
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
I wouldn't buy any masks......their all "Made In China"......
Not true. 3M's masks are made in USA...
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/worker-health-safety-us/all-stories/full-story-detail/?storyid=8855304f-01cb-4af2-8937-83096cdb4113
Also Honeywell...
https://www.honeywell.com/en-us/newsroom/news/2020/02/how-honeywell-is-responding-to-the-coronavirus
Mar 1, 2020
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#78
For those not living with anxiety there are many options to choose from should you wish to do so.
RussBell wrote:
In the U.S. the Center for Disease Control (CDC) website - provides guidance and recommended preventive measures for health care facilities and health care personnel (HPC) against Coronoa Virus - COVID-19 (where CO = Corona, VI=virus D=Disease, 19=2019). If you decide to wear a mask, (probably a good idea in confined spaces where you are together in close proximity with many people/strangers) the CDC recommended mask is the N95 mask/respirator - it is referenced and recommended on the CDC website....
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infection-control/control-recommendations.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fhcp%2Finfection-control.html
I believe 3M company is largest manufacture of the N95 mask in the U.S.
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/?N=5002385+8707795+8707798+8710839+8711017+8711100+3294857497/
https://workersafety.3m.com/n95-respirator-dust-mask-walk-into-bar/
Some common sense precautions to minimize the possibility of infection by the virus in crowded, confined places:
1. Don't touch your face!
2. Wash your hands frequently.
3. Stay away from people who are coughing/sneezing and appear to have a runny nose (aka the 'sniffles')
4. Consider wearing a N95 mask/respirator as described in the links above.
Number 4 above is not actually recommended by the CDC. The CDC and other healthcare officials are actually urging people to stop buying up N95 masks.
“Seriously people — STOP BUYING MASKS!” the surgeon general, Jerome M. Adams, said in a tweet on Saturday morning. “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus"
You don't need them if you are not a healthcare worker or already infected. This is what you need to do:
"CDC does not recommend that people who are well wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory illnesses, including COVID-19. You should only wear a mask if a healthcare professional recommends it. A facemask should be used by people who have COVID-19 and are showing symptoms. This is to protect others from the risk of getting infected. The use of facemasks also is crucial for health workers and other people who are taking care of someone infected with COVID-19 in close settings (at home or in a health care facility)."
I didn't read all of your response, it was just too long. But I did notice the top story when I signed on a few minutes ago. The CDC says the virus can last on inanimate objects for up to 9 days. So to me it's just common sense that closing a school, or canceling a chess tournament are reasonable and not fear mongering. If they are right and it really can last for 9 days without any human contact, then it seems possible some of these no know origin cases could be from buying something online or some other casual non person contact.
Here's what the CDC actually says about how to handle things (will this also be too long for you to read? If so, then I think we've found the real problem here):
There is currently no vaccine to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus. However, as a reminder, CDC always recommends everyday preventive actions to help prevent the spread of respiratory diseases, including:
Really, just treat it as the flu.