How safe is it to go to tournaments right now?
Sort:
BISHOP_e3
Mar 1, 2020
0
#101
RussBell wrote:
Nowhere did I say that they were the same entity.
You said "CDC DID NOT SAY THIS" (all caps yours). My quote clearly says Surgeon General on it. So, you were just shouting to let everyone know you heartily and loudly agree with what I said, is that it?
Unilateral claims of jibberish do not an argument make, by the way.
btickler wrote:
RussBell wrote:
Nowhere did I say that they were the same entity.
You said "CDC DID NOT SAY THIS" (all caps yours). My quote clearly says Surgeon General on it. So, you were just shouting to let everyone know you heartily and loudly agree with what I said, is that it?
Unilateral claims of jibberish do not an argument make, by the way.
The comment relating to the CDC did not reference the Surgeon General.
I don't argue with jibberish.
RussBell wrote:
btickler wrote:
RussBell wrote:
Nowhere did I say that they were the same entity.
You said "CDC DID NOT SAY THIS" (all caps yours). My quote clearly says Surgeon General on it. So, you were just shouting to let everyone know you heartily and loudly agree with what I said, is that it?
Unilateral claims of jibberish do not an argument make, by the way.
The comment relating to the CDC did not reference the Surgeon General.
I don't argue with jibberish.
So then you can readily explain the context in which "CDC DID NOT SAY THIS" makes sense if you did not mean it to refer to the Surgeon General's comment about the masks not being effective, I assume?
@btickler - responding to your nonsense and jibberish is a waste of my time and energy.
RussBell wrote:
@btickler - responding to your nonsense and jibberish is a waste of my time and energy.
Funny, I feel exactly the same way about you and others that have posted misinformation here. It's a waste of time for people to read your advice mixed in with official information, and a waste of time for me to have to point out how it is incorrect or misleading since it should never have been posted that way to begin with.
The difference is, if I don't waste my time, the 4 point advice list that you made up is read by dozens or hundreds of people, some of whom go out to buy N95 masks, wasting their own time and efforts and hampering actual containment of the virus by medical professionals.
You don't have a leg to stand on anyway, so better late than never to skeedaddle.
btickler wrote:
RussBell wrote:
@btickler - responding to your nonsense and jibberish is a waste of my time and energy.
Funny, I feel exactly the same way about you and others that have posted misinformation here. It's a waste of time for people to read your advice mixed in with official information, and a waste of time for me to have to point out how it is incorrect or misleading since it should never have been posted that way to begin with.
The difference is, if I don't waste my time, the 4 point advice list that you made up is read by dozens or hundreds of people, some of whom go out to buy N95 masks, wasting their own time and efforts and hampering actual containment of the virus by medical professionals.
You don't have a leg to stand on anyway, so better late than never to skeedaddle.
I'll waste a little more time and energy for one last response to your inaccurate nonsense.
Nowhere in my posts did I say or imply that the general public need go out and buy an N95 mask. I simply posted information from the CDC website that the N95 mask is effective in combating the Corona virus. You are engaged in misrepresenting and mischaracterizing what I have clearly and accurately related.
I'm done with you.
RussBell wrote:
I'll waste a little more time and energy for one last response to your inaccurate nonsense.
Nowhere in my posts did I say or imply that the general public need go out and buy an N95 mask. I simply posted information from the CDC website that the N95 mask is effective in combating the Corona virus. You are engaged in misrepresenting and mischaracterizing what I have clearly and accurately related.
Awesome 
...so glad to find out this was just a misunderstanding and that you were just passing along info from the CDC. I'm a little confused, though, because for the life of me I cannot find where this section below is quoted from:
"Some common sense precautions to minimize the possibility of infection by the virus in crowded, confined places:
1. Don't touch your face!
2. Wash your hands frequently.
3. Stay away from people who are coughing/sneezing and appear to have a runny nose (aka the 'sniffles')
4. Consider wearing a N95 mask/respirator as described in the links above."
I'm particularly interested in #4. It seems to clash with their posted recommendations for the public, so clearly we need to bring this to their attention so they can fix it. So, if you can just tell me where you got it...that would be a big help. Thanks 
.
Influenza leads to over 300.000 deaths every year and no one talks about that because it is not unknown. of course I understand it is a new virus and a little more deadly (like 1-2% or so?) but it doesn't hold me down to do whatever I want to do.
it is an individual choice so everyone should make their own decision but yeah I believe a mask helps a little against every virus (do I want to wear one? uhmm no) and washing your hands and not coughing in someones face helps too (I appreciate those people who do that anyway, not just because there is a virus in the air right now)
it is an individual choice so everyone should make their own decision but yeah I believe a mask helps a little against every virus (do I want to wear one? uhmm no) and washing your hands and not coughing in someones face helps too (I appreciate those people who do that anyway, not just because there is a virus in the air right now)
Hey, just go, but if your opponent is pale as hell and suddendly falls over the board, run as fast as you can
The safe distance is three meters, so stay three meters away the board, run to make your move and run back to the safe distance
congrandolor wrote:
The safe distance is three meters, so stay three meters away the board, run to make your move and run back to the safe distance
Additional tips!!
I dont know " 3 meters rule" . If they say so, dont forget to buy a measuring rod!
you can but you'll probably not survive it
From Center for Disease Control (CDC).....I had included the following link in one of my earlier posts, but here it is once again. The article promulgates infection control recommendations for Health Care Personnel (HPC) relevant to the Corona virus. In particular, in the article, search for the term N95 which is the the CDC recommended model of mask which they say is effective in mitigating the spread of Corona Virus...
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/infection-control/control-recommendations.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fhcp%2Finfection-control.html
also relevant, from CDC....
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/prevention-treatment.html
there is an overwhelming amount of additional related information and documentation on the CDC website...browse insofar as you are motivated.
An old adage comes to mind - You can lead a horse, or a btickler, to water, but you can't make it drink......
This is all I will have to say on the subject in this forum.
btickler wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
DamonevicSmithlov wrote:
It ain't safe at all. Stay home, don't go anywhere to do anything.
I dont think that's the point. The original question is how safe is it to go to a chess tournament. As the disease spreads, probably more and more people will not go to chess tournaments (or other areas where people are in close quarters). Here a biologist who has examined the virus says that it's probably been spreading for six weeks and since those who have had it have little or no signs of it, they just keep spreading it. It's hard to say how many people who look and feel perfectly fine are spreading the virus. My guess is chess tournaments aren't the only thing people are going to be avoiding.
It's ironic, because yesterday driving by Costco there was a huge line out the door of people waiting to get in. Also, from what I heard, the checkout lines went all the way to the back of the store. All those people crammed into a small space, trying to buy stuff to help them in case they get a disease caused by people crammed into a small space.
Another unsupported argument. My ex-wife is a microbiologist who is working on Coronavirus testing right now this very minute (and for lots of overtime), but...until I needed to make a point to refute your own, I would not have mentioned that...why? Because it doesn't matter what my ex-wife might tell me in the same way that your "biologist" and their personal take on things doesn't matter either. Unless you'd like to names names and explain exactly what you mean by "has examined the virus", you are just another schmuck saying "well, my Uncle Joe works security nights at the lab, and HE overheard some doctor saying...". Why do I suspect you really mean that some acquaintance of yours who has a degree in biology but doesn't work with viruses at all looked at some slides/images posted online and made some harebrained conclusion?
I was at Costco today myself, for groceries, and the number of people buying giant amounts of antiseptic this or that was frightening. You know who frightened all these people into a mass panic far beyond the scope of reason at this stage? People just like you. Calling for a level of "preparedness" far beyond what experts on the subject are advocating. Even here you are making proclamations like "As the disease spreads, probably more and more people will not go to chess tournaments (or other areas [...]" that you are pulling straight out of your a$$.
Please, tell us, what else is going to happen? What should everyone who doesn't have direct access to your omniscient postings do? Can they survive?
Honestly, I dont understand what your problem is. You have a chip on your shoulder for some reason. I dont have to "support" any opinion I have because it's my opinion. We all have them and there is nothing wrong with sharing them. If you dont like it, dont participate. It almost seems like you agree with me, but you are angry because I brought it up first and only after you disagree with me first. What level of "preparedness" do you believe I am calling for? You have made some wild assumptions, rather than just reading what I wrote.
All I can go by is what the experts say. I'm not an expert. So when they say the virus can survive on inanimate objects for several days, I listen. When they say it's prudent to close a school where the virus has shown up, I listen. When they say the virus has been circulating and spreading for many weeks prior to anyone testing positive, I listen. From those facts I can form my opinion. My opinion is that it's ironic the long lines at Costco could very well spread the disease they are standing in line to avoid. My opinion is that chess tournaments aren't the only mass gatherings that are going to be canceled or avoided. My opinion is that MANY of us have the virus (or had it and are already over it) and dont even know it yet. My opinion is that it's not going to be nearly as bad as some people think. I dont need to "support" any of my opinions because they are opinions. I dont criticize you for your opinions, I would appreciate the same consideration.
RussBell wrote:
@btickler - responding to your nonsense and jibberish is a waste of my time and energy.
I think your observation falls directly in line with Destinys observation that there is an ex wife.
yeah well everyone reacts different on the news of the virus and they do not harm anyone by preparing or overreacting (whatever opinion you have) so sure everyone has their own opinion. the only point I do not get is why do some people buy so much food all in a sudden? as if all the grocery stores will close 0_o not eating is deadly too....I rather compare the virus to Influenza than The Walking Dead ;/
Mar 2, 2020
0
#118
Chess4PK wrote:
So you haven't been anywhere outside since the coronavirus outbreak? Why is going to a chess tournament any different?
I agree. do you go to the store? have you been to a sporting event? have you gone to the post office? other than touching chess pieces, what is the difference?
the virus is only really dangerous to those with compromised immune systems.
wear latex gloves if it makes you feel better, or instead of saying J'adoube (i.e. i adjust) at the beginning of the game - say J'spray (meaning I spray) and coat those plastic pieces down with a shot of lysol spray. Heck, you could even shoot a spray on your opponent if they smell bad or don't practice good hygiene.
good luck at the tourney.
IcyAvaleigh wrote:
yeah well everyone reacts different on the news of the virus and they do not harm anyone by preparing or overreacting (whatever opinion you have) so sure everyone has their own opinion. the only point I do not get is why do some people buy so much food all in a sudden? as if all the grocery stores will close 0_o not eating is deadly too....I rather compare the virus to Influenza than The Walking Dead ;/
I agree everyone acts differently, depending on their circumstance. One reason some people might want to suddenly buy so much food is that a number of people who believe they have the virus are choosing to self quarantine. That could mean they wish to avoid all contact with other people for the two weeks they stay at home. To do that they might want to make sure they have enough food for those two weeks and not have to risk exposing other people during that time.
lfPatriotGames wrote:
RussBell wrote:
@btickler - responding to your nonsense and jibberish is a waste of my time and energy.
I think your observation falls directly in line with Destinys observation that there is an ex wife.
Nice try, but I have had 3 long term relationships in my life...26 years, 2 years, and the current one of 5 years and running, and every one of my partners has wanted to/wants to be a lifelong partnership. I had to end the first 2 partnerships (not the relationships, however) because sometimes things just don't work out. Go ahead and let me know if/when you last 26 years in a marriage ...because I'm guessing the "papa/mama bear who has more common sense than everyone else and loves to guide you kindly and lovingly in the correct direction as determined by themselves" schtick works wonders short term, but doesn't play well long term.
As for having a chip on my shoulder (your other post)...kind of, I guess, but not really. I just get annoyed when people continue on and on spouting their personal wisdom specifically to influence others when that not-so-hard-won "wisdom" is fuzzy and baseless. It's irresponsible and ego-driven. You will have noticed by now though that I never just sideswipe you on some "Hi, what do you think of the QGD?" post...nor do I /follow you.
I just keep running into your "advice" and "wisdom" in the normal course of reading the forums, because you seem to like to spread it around. I only call out the worst stuff, by the way, though I will freely admit that when you add the proverbial "my daddy taught me right, now listen up" stuff to some antiquated notion, I am more prone to refute that . I'm pretty restrained, but I don't drop a point if somebody steadfastly clings to something demonstrably damage-causing for people reading the BS, ala pushing N95 masks or advising people to be fearful about their mail when no authoritative source has said boo about it.