How to get better at visualization?

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Gianglian

I'm a couple pages into Chess Fundamentals and Capablanca seems to assume that the reader can visualize many moves down the board with no visuals. I feel like I'm not going to be able to get as much out of the book because of this. Any tips or am I approaching it wrong?

nobodyreally

Dunno the book, But if you can't do it, lay the book away until a later time. Play a lot and you will get better at it. Try to play some games with friends without a chessboard. You'll learn.

Twinchicky

Gianglian, almost any chess book you read will have lines of 5-10 moves without a diagram. It is intended for you to play through the moves with a board and pieces - it can be tedious, but you will get much more out of the book not only if you play through it, but also analyze each move yourself before continuing to read.

nobodyreally
Twinchicky wrote:

Gianglian, almost any chess book you read will have lines of 5-10 moves without a diagram. It is intended for you to play through the moves with a board and pieces - it can be tedious, but you will get much more out of the book not only if you play through it, but also analyze each move yourself before continuing to read.

I totally disagree. From when i learned to play chess, even after a few month, i tried to look at chessgames without a chessboard. (in fact i didn't have one Smile).

Feel it helped me a lot to learn to visualise.

kleelof
nobodyreally wrote:
Twinchicky wrote:

Gianglian, almost any chess book you read will have lines of 5-10 moves without a diagram. It is intended for you to play through the moves with a board and pieces - it can be tedious, but you will get much more out of the book not only if you play through it, but also analyze each move yourself before continuing to read.

I totally disagree. From when i learned to play chess, even after a few month, i tried to look at chessgames without a chessboard. (in fact i didn't have one ).

Feel it helped me a lot to learn to visualise.

Unfortunately, like so many aspects of chess, this is something that not everyone can do well. So, while they are developing their visualization skill, it is better to use the chessboard so they can at least get the ideas in the book.

Gianglian

Thanks for the advice. I'll try to play out the moves on a chessboard and see how it goes!

nobodyreally
kleelof wrote:

Unfortunately, like so many aspects of chess, this is something that not everyone can do well. So, while they are developing their visualization skill, it is better to use the chessboard so they can at least get the ideas in the book.

I never said he/she would be able to do it well! I just meant: it will get better.

kleelof

I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet; Do tactics puzzles. These will require you to visualize a few moves ahead. Over time you should improve.

JGambit

Only one real answer and its the reason every GM can play chess blinfolded quite easily.

 Play tons of chess. After a while you will be able to see moves in your head.

nobodyreally
JGambit wrote:

Only one real answer and its the reason every GM can play chess blinfolded quite easily.

 Play tons of chess. After a while you will be able to see moves in your head.

I said that in post # 2 lol

majimba

when playing online games try not to use the analysis board as a crutch, and the tactics trainer is great for learning to see several moves down the board and through subtle hidden weaknesses in your oppenents' positions...

kleelof
majimba wrote:

when playing online games try not to use the analysis board as a crutch, and the tactics trainer is great for learning to see several moves down the board and through subtle hidden weaknesses in your oppenents' positions...

It's not really a 'crtuch' to use the analysis board during Online Chess. There are things at least as important as visualization that can be learned by using the analaysis board.

For example; using the analysis board during Online Chess helps you learn tactical ideas through trial and error. It also helps build your confidence in your ablities and gained knowledge.

To practice things like visualization and time management, it is best to do so in Live Chess.

I use it all the time. I also play 30/0 and 5/0 live games and, without a doubt, my visualization skills are better now than before partly because of the things I learned from Online Chess.

JGambit

Yes my mistake. You did say it it first and you are a more reputable source my mistake.

majimba

all good points, kleelof. i'm not judging on use of the analysis board overall, just that using it too much can lead to "needing" it to hash out complex positions. i was suggesting that Gianglian would benefit from challenging themselves to see lines without moving pieces, or use the trainer to be led down hidden paths to victory. the slow games certainly do inform the faster live games when true unaided vision really counts! :)

mrtoduvet

How to train visualisation :

- visualisation :

exo 1, try to tell the color of the squares you choose randomly.

exo 2, try to tell the path for a knight to reach a square (you choose randomly the start and the finish square)

exo 3, read a book and try to visualize the moves, the threats (hard).

- calculating :

exo 1, solve checkmate in 2

exo 2, solve pawns ending exercices (like those from dejascacchi) (or rooks endings)

exo 3, solve studies (hard)

Yaroslavl
Gianglian wrote:

I'm a couple pages into Chess Fundamentals and Capablanca seems to assume that the reader can visualize many moves down the board with no visuals. I feel like I'm not going to be able to get as much out of the book because of this. Any tips or am I approaching it wrong?

Watch this video (K+B+N vs. K) over and over until you can do it in your sleep:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3EqM17jvOc

What will happen after you can do it in your sleep is when you are playing a game or just analyzing a position, the B + N mating nets if there are any in the position will jump up off the board and smack you on the forehead in a flash!!

Then you can move on to the K+Q vs. K, K+R vs. K and K+2Bs vs. K.  They all involve the corraling the enemy K technique including the K+B+N vs. K.

It will take you about 3 months of practice, but after that those 4 mating nets will jump up off the board and smack you on the forehead everytime you are playing a game or analyzing a position.  I know because that is what happens to me and every other strong player.

There are 5 visualization pattern memory banks that you have to build into your brain.  The 4 Mating Net endgames just described above are 1 of the 5 visualization pattern memory banks that you must build.

BossCoder

I have a chessboard and I rarely use it because there is no one to play with me

I can better visualize online than OTB so what should I Do