How to go from 1800+ to 2200+

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Sofia-B

Hi

 

Armaan30
Do tactics and study endgames
foxyd

I think you need to improve your game.

sohum3894

No need of coach. Nowadays chess coaching has become money making business. Most coaches in my area don't have enough knowledge of chess. They teach beginners and earn money. They are not concerned about future of their students in chess. They want only money. If we can study on our own, no need of coach.

sohum3894

If anyone with similar interests like me, you can add me as friend and we will play live chess or correspondence and help each other improve our games.

pdve

good recommendations @DeirdreSkye. I am playing a tournament this month and will probably get a good reality shock.

SeniorPatzer

Preggo:  "Mostly improvement is about taking a difficult position (from a game, puzzle, or whatever) then spending some time analyzing it as best you can on your own, then comparing your analysis to what the author or player or engine says."

 

This is more fun than blitz, and you'll get much better too.

pdve

I have improved a lot since I last played a tournament

ponz111

There are some very good books and a wealth of instruction on line and free. You just need to use the resources. Some have been mentioned in this forum.

  I would suggest almost stopping blitz and use the resources available.

DjonniDerevnja
sohum3894 wrote:
Hi guys. My blitz rating here is in the 1800-1900 range now. I am planning to cross 2200 in a period of one year from now. I play around 20-25 blitz games here per day, sometimes more. I do analysis of the games which I lose. I study openings and end games daily. I participate in 2-3 OTB tournaments per month. I am devoting full time for chess and I don't do anything else. I have taken up chess as a career. Is one year a realistic time frame to achieve 2200+ here? How to go about it? Am I going in the right direction? Please help me out in making a plan of action. P.S. My FIDE rating in classical is 1363 and I am working on that too and plan to go above 1600 in one year.

I am 1451 Fide, and performing ca 1550-1600 steadily in otbtournaments, and I do not think you need to improve anything to cash in 16oo Fide. You only need to play enough tournaments with your current strenght to collect those points.    Your blitzrating is so much stronger than your otb- Fide that i think you in stead of playing much blitz can benefit from rapid, allowing deeper calculations.

Preggo_Basashi
BobbyPhisher960 wrote:

1) 2200 FIDE is not hard at all.

List all the students you've coached who went above 2200.

Starting with an 1800 rated 10 year old doesn't count, they would have made it without you.

My guess is the number you've coached over 2200: zero.

Preggo_Basashi

I went to my first tournament at 21.

8 years from now, when you're 21, start learning a difficult skill and try to be as good as I am at chess lol happy.png

Preggo_Basashi

It's ok for kids to say 2200 is easy.

But when adults say it, I think it's pretty dumb, and I challenge them to list all their students who are over 2200 wink.png

Preggo_Basashi

In other words, people assume that because they did it, it's easy for everyone, so I challenge them to prove that it's easy for everyone.

It's fine for kids to say it because kids don't have much life experience yet.

Preggo_Basashi
BobbyPhisher960 wrote:

Well, there are a lot of 2200+ players who are not coaches. Many of >2200 <2500 actually have a job, and chess is on second place.

Yes, but whether they're a coach or not doesn't matter, it's a rhetorical device. I'm making my point by asking them to be sure they're framing their assertion in terms of everyone else instead of themselves.

Preggo_Basashi
BobbyPhisher960 wrote:
Preggo_Basashi wrote:

In other words, people assume that because they did it, it's easy for everyone, so I challenge them to prove that it's easy for everyone.

It's fine for kids to say it because kids don't have much life experience yet.

Well, it was pretty easy at my age. Whether it is or it isn't when you start at older age, I'll never know.

And of course it is not easy for everyone, you have to be intelligent. It is true that Magnus had personal coaches, cook, the whole team. But so did many others, and yet they are not as good as him. (Talking about the era after RJF)

Yeah, as you say here, it may have been easy for you, but not for everyone your age.

 

I know a 13-14 year old whose dad is 2300+ so he basically got free coaching whenever he wanted from his dad... but he's stuck at 1800-1900 level.

subhankhurram
pdve wrote:

And my coach is roughly 2000 FIDE he has a wife and kids and earns enough to even drink booze.

LOL!!!

subhankhurram
BobbyPhisher960 wrote:

Therefore, if a 2200 is a professional who's living alone, he will die very soon.

Explain...

drmrboss

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If we look at the record of Leela training ( Neural Network Learning chess scratch with zero knowledge), there is sharp rise in elo in initially and then very slow to improve. It would be the same to human beings,

 

1. a player can sharply gain  1000 elo in a few years and then stall for whole life

2. sharply gain 1200 elo and stall for whole life.

3. sharply gain 1500 elo in a few years and stall for whole life.

 

What I mean is that "how did you reach 1800" will estimate the chance of progress. If you have been improving constantly , then the chance of getting higher is better. However if you have been stalling with 1800 for years, then you need to review you learning methods and previous knowledge and training (need improvement in knowledge,  correct bad training method etc)

sohum3894

I agree . Blitz doesn't help improve game fast. Study from books is important. Age doesn't matter much in chess. At any age if a player has the kind of environment conducive to fast improvement in chess, he/she can reach master level atleast. Older guys are more matured than kids in terms of understanding concepts . At young age grasping power is less, retention is more and in old age it is the opposite, i.e., retention is less and grasping is more. Correct me if I am wrong. From my personal experience I am understanding chess better and faster than I used to when I was below 12 years of age.