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How to help (very) low-rated children "Get it" ?
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simeis147 wrote:
"It can't be, right? After all, there are 8 year old experts and masters!"
Those happen to be the exception though. Keep in mind that highly rated children often exhibit high intrinsic motivation, aside from being genetically better geared for chess. Can't expect your kids to be Carlsen now, can we?
True, but I also don't see how they can average dropping more than 2 pieces per game after months of playing and lessons, either - they even have 2 coaches, me and another.
Teach them Informant symbols and buy the latest edition of Chess Informant. That should take care of their opening preperation and learning how to judge a position. Books like Nunn's Chess Course and Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual should help them learn the critical skills required for improvement.
zezpwn44 wrote:
simeis147 wrote:
"It can't be, right? After all, there are 8 year old experts and masters!"
Those happen to be the exception though. Keep in mind that highly rated children often exhibit high intrinsic motivation, aside from being genetically better geared for chess. Can't expect your kids to be Carlsen now, can we?
True, but I also don't see how they can average dropping more than 2 pieces per game after months of playing and lessons, either - they even have 2 coaches, me and another.
Teach them the give-away variant. it helps my kids see their captures.
Haha, interesting.
Apr 13, 2015
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TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:
Teach them Informant symbols and buy the latest edition of Chess Informant. That should take care of their opening preperation and learning how to judge a position. Books like Nunn's Chess Course and Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual should help them learn the critical skills required for improvement.
After your 8-year old gets through the above, he'll be ready to serve as a second for Magnus Carlsen. Serving as a second for a world champion will no doubt reduce the number of hanging pieces in his own games.
Apr 13, 2015
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zezpwn44 wrote:
simeis147 wrote:
"It can't be, right? After all, there are 8 year old experts and masters!"
Those happen to be the exception though. Keep in mind that highly rated children often exhibit high intrinsic motivation, aside from being genetically better geared for chess. Can't expect your kids to be Carlsen now, can we?
True, but I also don't see how they can average dropping more than 2 pieces per game after months of playing and lessons, either - they even have 2 coaches, me and another.
As I indicated above, you can't get a kid to stop hanging pieces by telling him to stop hanging pieces. You have to teach him or her how to spot hanging pieces quickly, instinctively. Alberston's Chess Mazes really do work.
I don't want to be arrogant but I never needed to do hanging pieces exercises to stop hanging pieces, even as a grade school kid. I wasn't good at much else, but not hanging pieces didn't seem too advanced.
Apr 13, 2015
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Elubas wrote:
I don't want to be arrogant but I never needed to do hanging pieces exercises to stop hanging pieces, even as a grade school kid. I wasn't good at much else, but not hanging pieces didn't seem too advanced.
Did you play a lot of blitz? That helps too with the instant pattern recognition. And some kids are just naturally cautious. However, most kids hang a lot of pieces when they're starting out. They will get better at piece safety with maturity, but if you want to accelerate the process you can do so with chess mazes.
Apr 13, 2015
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adypady02 wrote:
zezpwn44 wrote:
simeis147 wrote:
"It can't be, right? After all, there are 8 year old experts and masters!"
Those happen to be the exception though. Keep in mind that highly rated children often exhibit high intrinsic motivation, aside from being genetically better geared for chess. Can't expect your kids to be Carlsen now, can we?
True, but I also don't see how they can average dropping more than 2 pieces per game after months of playing and lessons, either - they even have 2 coaches, me and another.
The unfortunate truth may be lack of interest or skill.
Agreed : some children don't have the competitive drive or just don't bother. Not much you can do about it. They probably have other interests 
Apr 13, 2015
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Elubas wrote:
I don't want to be arrogant but I never needed to do hanging pieces exercises to stop hanging pieces, even as a grade school kid. I wasn't good at much else, but not hanging pieces didn't seem too advanced.
Shows that you had talent and/or above average interest for the game.
Funny. I'm rated about 1250 and I still leave hanging pieces.
hicetnunc wrote:
Elubas wrote:
I don't want to be arrogant but I never needed to do hanging pieces exercises to stop hanging pieces, even as a grade school kid. I wasn't good at much else, but not hanging pieces didn't seem too advanced.
Shows that you had talent and/or above average interest for the game.
There are many people who have great interest(even obssesed) with chess, but they still hang pieces a lot.
xman720 wrote:
Funny. I'm rated about 1250 and I still leave hanging pieces.
Yeah, maybe the truth is Elubas was playing other gradeschoolers, so it wasn't always obvious to him when he hung pieces ;)
Kids learn easy if you reward a puzzle with chocolate, and punish wrong answers by blurting a loud marine boat horn. It helps them with serious motivation.
lisa_zhang_tok wrote:
Kids learn easy if you reward a puzzle with chocolate, and punish wrong answers by blurting a loud marine boat horn. It helps them with serious motivation.
As well as developing deep seated psychological pathology as adults.
leiph18 wrote:
lisa_zhang_tok wrote:
Kids learn easy if you reward a puzzle with chocolate, and punish wrong answers by blurting a loud marine boat horn. It helps them with serious motivation.
As well as developing deep seated psychological pathology as adults.
haha no..
anyway I'm Asian, we are expert at raising kids.
Maybe you just want there to be a more complex way? or need Dr Phil too tell you the low down.
get a loud horn and a box of chocolates and all the kids well be 1400 next week... it also cures ADHD and depression
plus the kids will love it and laugh there A$$'s off... its thrilling
anyway I'm Asian, we are expert at raising kids.
Maybe you just want there to be a more complex way? or need Dr Phil too tell you the low down.
get a loud horn and a box of chocolates and all the kids well be 1400 next week... it also cures ADHD and depression
plus the kids will love it and laugh there A$$'s off... its thrilling
Dr Phil, heh.
Americans do seem to love fat idiots on TV.
Happy to say I've never seen 1 episode.
But yes, some kids would only need more discipline. I was being a bit tongue in cheek with the pathology thing.
Also interesting is the step by step series
That is the series I was referring to, as well as the 'Stepping Stones' series for very young children. Great series.