Here's a game I had. I suspect this opponent cheating. He disconnected twice when he was cornered, and conventiently starts making fast moves when he isnt cornered. I removed the name of my opponent in this match, and adjusted his rating so as to not lead back to him.
He didn't take my rook when he could, but I think he cheated on two occassions, to see what the best move was, and played the rest of the game as normal. I won in the end.
He gave up, but it was mate in either way.
There are man 12 year olds here. In body or mind. They will be prone to cheat. They care mofe about rating than skill.
No one's disputing that.
What i was disputing was the assertion that "70% of all players online are cheats. That's a fact."
...with no source.
Don't make me get out the dictionary and paste the definition for 'fact'...
...and 'delusional'...
...and 'gullible.'
There are man 12 year olds here. In body or mind. They will be prone to cheat. They care mofe about rating than skill.
No one's disputing that.
What i was disputing was the assertion that "70% of all players online are cheats. That's a fact."
...with no source.
Don't make me get out the dictionary and paste the definition for 'fact'...
...and 'delusional'...
...and 'gullible.'
The 70% weren't my words. You can study that dictionary the whole day for all I care. See what I did there? I can give attitude too.
Here's a game I had. I suspect this opponent cheating. He disconnected twice when he was cornered, and conventiently starts making fast moves when he isnt cornered.
???
Again with the 'disconnection' thing -- why does disconnection equate to cheating?
I get disconnected from my live games all the time...because my wi-fi signal sucks. Pretty sure i'm not the only one in the world who ever has that problem.
And "making faster moves when he isn't cornered" doesn't sound suspect to me at all. If anything, i would tend to think that behaving in the opposite way would be more suspect. And even so, this suspicion is far, far from anything resembling concrete evidence.
And...you won the game!
Here's a game I had. I suspect this opponent cheating. He disconnected twice when he was cornered, and conventiently starts making fast moves when he isnt cornered.
???
Again with the 'disconnection' thing -- why does disconnection equate to cheating?
I get disconnected from my live games all the time...because my wi-fi signal sucks. Pretty sure i'm not the only one in the world who ever has that problem.
And "making faster moves when he isn't cornered" doesn't sound suspect to me at all. If anything, i would tend to think that behaving in the opposite way would be more suspect. And even so, this suspicion is far, far from anything resembling concrete evidence.
And...you won the game!
Well. look at it like this: opponent and I play our game. We open up the game, neither of us make any mistakes. Then we are at middle game. My opponent disconnects, comes back and makes a move. Then plays normally again. I corner him. He disconnects again, and makes his move.
Doens't that sound suspicious to you?
Winning doesn't matter. I want to play a fair match, where I either lose fairly or win fairly. I won this time fairly, of course, but still, it doesn't feel good to feel like you're being outclassed by someone who's cheating. Not that I'm a 100% certain my opponent cheated.
Then again, I might be wrong! My opponent disconnected for only 5 seconds. There is no way for him to cheat in that amount of time, I think.
I realize that there are plenty of cheaters out there, playing at all rating levels. I get it.
But what i don't get is people making assertions and claims with no evidence. If you show me computer analysis of their moves that indicate they were playing hundreds of points above their rating level, then i'll start to raise an eyebrow. But you've provided nothing of the sort thus far.
I am a premium member. As a paying customer of chess.com I think I am allowed to open a topic with the nature of this topic. The title is about how to play against premium members.
Also your image contributes nothing to this topic.
I realize that there are plenty of cheaters out there, playing at all rating levels. I get it.
But what i don't get is people making assertions and claims with no evidence. If you show me computer analysis of their moves that indicate they were playing hundreds of points above their rating level, then i'll start to raise an eyebrow. But you've provided nothing of the sort thus far.
You may be right, but I think it's just too easy for people to cheat. Besides, playing against someone who cheats is, besides being unfair, also a blow to your learning curve I believe. Because, how are you supposed to learn when your opponent makes super moves that make them win 10 moves later?
Or maybe you do learn because you know what not to do. Hmmm, actually, you do learn then.
Still, I'd rather play against premium members only. I am stupified why this is not possible. It's not even hard to implement I believe.
Then again, I might be wrong! My opponent disconnected for only 5 seconds. There is no way for him to cheat in that amount of time, I think.
Thank you -- now you're making a little more sense.
And, again, i don't see why, even if they had disconnected for an entire minute, that that would mean they might be consulting an engine -- they can consult an engine while still being connected.
Then again, I might be wrong! My opponent disconnected for only 5 seconds. There is no way for him to cheat in that amount of time, I think.
Thank you -- now you're making a little more sense.
And, again, i don't see why, even if they had disconnected for an entire minute, that that would mean they might be consulting an engine -- they can consult an engine while still being connected.
Yes, but the thing is, when you're still connected to chess.com, chess.com's anti-cheat measssures might go off when you consult an engine. When you're disconnected the anti-cheat measssures won't be able to detect any cheating because the cheater isn't connected. I think.
Still, I'd rather play against premium members only. I am stupified why this is not possible. It's not even hard to implement I believe.
I have no beef with you there -- that does seem like it would be an easy functionality to implement, and perhaps something that many of us would enjoy taking advantage of.
Well, even if you're right about that, all you would have to do is have another laptop sitting next to you and type in each move. Wouldn't take much time at all.
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Persoanlly I do not understand any of you idiots.
Nearly 70% of all players online are cheats.
That's a fact.
Are you going to list a source for that number, or are you just blurting out whatever number agrees with your delusion?
There are man 12 year olds here. In body or mind. They will be prone to cheat. They care mofe about rating than skill.