Hypothesis: IQ and Chess

Since Bobby Fischer and his IQ has been discussed and the thesis here is about the relevance of "IQ" in chess, this may be of interest:

http://www.chessmaniac.com/Bobby_Fischer/Bobby_Fischer_Articles2.shtm

computer IQ= processing power same difference differnt name

It has also been suggested that Kasparov has an IQ of 190. I understand the test referred to earlier was only of 10 questions, and it was taken when Kasparov was about 14.

"IQ and chess..." zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

 The above is mostly true when it comes to intelligence.

However, I think a very important thing that is missing is the fighting spirit of a player, especially at the top level. And this is where someones emotions (or sometimes the absence of it) play an important role.

Kasparov was very intelligent (maybe not a genius) and had a fighting spirit - so he was world champion for about 15 years.

Fischer was a genius but although he fought hard to reach the top he freaked out.

Yeah right Fischer had an IQ of 180 - sez who? Wikipedia? Let's see a verifiable source for this long-bandied about piece of BS.

Let's see the date and place of his IQ test as well as who administered it

There is no verifiable source, just Brady's annecdote of how someone who looked at Fischer's high school records (i.e. 9th or 10th grade) told him that he had this incredible IQ.

Which tests? The full multi-hour battery? The typical informal aptitude (not IQ) tests that can give a nominal percentile ranking? Administered to a group by some teacher and not to an individual by a psychologist?

So they pulled him out of classes for several hours to test him? And no one, including Fischer, recounts this?

This myth has to die.

The myth could persist freely if people would just set aside this irrational attachment to IQ as the sole, definitive indicator of intelligence.

Intelligence is a multi-faceted phenomenon and as such is virtually imposible to boil down to single number like this.

IQ is a hundred-year-old concept that, despite (or perhaps because of) having evolved somewhat to attempt to keep pace with modern psychology, has so many incarnations and interpretations as a result, ends up being more misleading than anything else.

In fact, this is where the real correlation between IQ and chess ratings is probably best illustrated:  In the unfounded qualitative interpretations that are made as a result of either "quantitative" measure.

intelligent people learn faster at everything in general but i believe it depends how much you want to learn, i play for fun but never study much so ill never increase in rating until i decide thats what i really want. anyone with average intelligence can reach a master level.

If there is any correlation at all, it's chess playing raises IQ, not the other way around.

I agree with post 62.

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"IQ and chess..." zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

agreed, and to bat almost a completely pointless discussion.  anyways if you want to be really good at chess, you have to put in the work.  almost anyone could play blindfolded if they put the work in

edit: and for the grammar nazis I'll create all my own words I want. 

 OK then I will rephrase:

The above is only true when it comes to intelligence.

However, I think a very important thing that is missing is the fighting spirit of a player, especially at the top level. And this is where controlling emotions play an important role.

Kasparov had a fighting spirit - so he was world champion for about 15 years.

Shame on Copeland for perpetuating the Fischer IQ myths back in 2009...there are no confirmed documents of Fischer's IQ, only wild estimates by people that have no business making estimates...