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Supreme_Gamer_Girl
CraigIreland wrote:

I can't work out how you reached 1692 without being able to predict 2 or 3 moves ahead? Perhaps we have different concepts of visualisation.

I can predict the moves, I can't see clearly what the position will look like after the moves. I lose track of things.

JohnNapierSanDiego

cute girl asks a question, gets more answers from more guys than she ever bargained for.  That's the way of men.

Supreme_Gamer_Girl
Optimissed wrote:

I usually assume these pics were taken 50 years ago

I wasn't alive 20 years ago

Batman2508

During rapid games I like to walk away from phone but and play out the position in my head and analyze that way.

Batman2508

If you can't visualize that's ok having a good understanding of a position goes a long way

NMRhino
I can visualize a few moves ahead while looking at the chess board online or otb which is good, but I can’t visualize a chess board at all even with no pieces on it while looking at nothing.
NMRhino
Jalex13 wrote:
I don’t think he’s a real NM

I’m a real NM

Supreme_Gamer_Girl
NMRhino wrote:

I’m a real NM

I'm the queen of Denmark

Lord_V-6
Supreme_Gamer_Girl wrote:
NMRhino wrote:

I’m a real NM

I'm the queen of Denmark

LOL

Bramblyspam

For what it's worth, I can't visualize well either - worse than any other master I know. If I try looking more than 3-5 moves ahead, everything dissolves into fog. I've said repeatedly that if I could visualize well enough to play blindfold chess, my rating would instantly go up 200 points. But if I tried playing blindfolded, I'd be hanging pieces left & right before we even got out of the opening.

This still didn't keep me from making master. wink


Kotshmot
Bramblyspam wrote:

For what it's worth, I can't visualize well either - worse than any other master I know. If I try looking more than 3-5 moves ahead, everything dissolves into fog. I've said repeatedly that if I could visualize well enough to play blindfold chess, my rating would instantly go up 200 points. But if I tried playing blindfolded, I'd be hanging pieces left & right before we even got out of the opening.

This still didn't keep me from making master.


If you can calculate 10 moves ahead looking at the board I don't think it benefits you to be able to calculate 5 moves blindfolded. I don't think it matters at all

Bramblyspam
Kotshmot wrote:
Bramblyspam wrote:

For what it's worth, I can't visualize well either - worse than any other master I know. If I try looking more than 3-5 moves ahead, everything dissolves into fog. I've said repeatedly that if I could visualize well enough to play blindfold chess, my rating would instantly go up 200 points. But if I tried playing blindfolded, I'd be hanging pieces left & right before we even got out of the opening.

This still didn't keep me from making master.


If you can calculate 10 moves ahead looking at the board I don't think it benefits you to be able to calculate 5 moves blindfolded. I don't think it matters at all

I calculate 3-5 moves ahead looking at the board.
Without the board, that goes down to zero.

Woollensock2
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Kotshmot
Bramblyspam wrote:
Kotshmot wrote:
Bramblyspam wrote:

For what it's worth, I can't visualize well either - worse than any other master I know. If I try looking more than 3-5 moves ahead, everything dissolves into fog. I've said repeatedly that if I could visualize well enough to play blindfold chess, my rating would instantly go up 200 points. But if I tried playing blindfolded, I'd be hanging pieces left & right before we even got out of the opening.

This still didn't keep me from making master.


If you can calculate 10 moves ahead looking at the board I don't think it benefits you to be able to calculate 5 moves blindfolded. I don't think it matters at all

I calculate 3-5 moves ahead looking at the board.
Without the board, that goes down to zero.

Only 3-5? Then after couple of trades here, one  check there you wouldn't know what kind of end game you're getting. Sounds unbelievable to me that you're playing at such high level like that but I guess it works somehow lol

Kotshmot
NervesofButter wrote:
Kotshmot wrote:
Bramblyspam wrote:
Kotshmot wrote:
Bramblyspam wrote:

For what it's worth, I can't visualize well either - worse than any other master I know. If I try looking more than 3-5 moves ahead, everything dissolves into fog. I've said repeatedly that if I could visualize well enough to play blindfold chess, my rating would instantly go up 200 points. But if I tried playing blindfolded, I'd be hanging pieces left & right before we even got out of the opening.

This still didn't keep me from making master.


If you can calculate 10 moves ahead looking at the board I don't think it benefits you to be able to calculate 5 moves blindfolded. I don't think it matters at all

I calculate 3-5 moves ahead looking at the board.
Without the board, that goes down to zero.

Only 3-5? Then after couple of trades here, one  check there you wouldn't know what kind of end game you're getting. Sounds unbelievable to me that you're playing at such high level like that but I guess it works somehow lol

I think the whole "I can see <x moves ahead>" is seriously over blown.   Unless its a forcing line, its completely normal to "see" just a few moves ahead.

Of course it depends on the positions but as you said, with forcing lines you often have to calculate till the "end" in a classical game.

Supreme_Gamer_Girl
NervesofButter wrote:
Kotshmot wrote:
Bramblyspam wrote:
Kotshmot wrote:
Bramblyspam wrote:

For what it's worth, I can't visualize well either - worse than any other master I know. If I try looking more than 3-5 moves ahead, everything dissolves into fog. I've said repeatedly that if I could visualize well enough to play blindfold chess, my rating would instantly go up 200 points. But if I tried playing blindfolded, I'd be hanging pieces left & right before we even got out of the opening.

This still didn't keep me from making master.


If you can calculate 10 moves ahead looking at the board I don't think it benefits you to be able to calculate 5 moves blindfolded. I don't think it matters at all

I calculate 3-5 moves ahead looking at the board.
Without the board, that goes down to zero.

Only 3-5? Then after couple of trades here, one  check there you wouldn't know what kind of end game you're getting. Sounds unbelievable to me that you're playing at such high level like that but I guess it works somehow lol

I think the whole "I can see <x moves ahead>" is seriously over blown.   Unless its a forcing line, its completely normal to "see" just a few moves ahead.

Well obviously we're talking about forcing lines and tactics...

L2ga

To help with this I take the notation from old games. Do 2 or 3 moves in my head. Then make the same moves on an actual board.

Mermaum
JohnNapierSanDiego wrote:

cute girl asks a question, gets more answers from more guys than she ever bargained for.  That's the way of men.

 

Doesn't necessarily have to be a cute one but every single time a girl posts something that gets a few replies someone says that exact same thing you did, conveniently forgetting that meanwhile there are many dudes posting with 100s of replies and cute girls posting with zero replies lol

 

Plus the odds favors heavy catfishing

 

But if OP or anyone else have interested in Jacob Aagaard's Grandmaster Preparation Calculation let me know I have a pdf version of it

Mermaum
Mermaum wrote:

But if OP or anyone else have interested in Jacob Aagaard's Grandmaster Preparation Calculation let me know I have a pdf version of it

 

Unless I'm technically not supposed to say that, in which case I don't have the book and don't message me

Supreme_Gamer_Girl
Mermaum wrote:

The odds favors heavy catfishing

"Girls aren't real"