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I commonly deal with scandinavian as white. Is there anyway to combat this?

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tygxc

#37

"A simpler way to look at the tempo advantage against the retreated queen, is to just look at the state of the board after White's 4th move."
++ It is unfair to look after white's move: look after black's 3rd move 3...Qd8. White has 1 piece into play Nc3 and black has none, so white is 1 tempo up. After 3...Qa5 or 3...Qd6 you could say the tempo count is even, as white has Nc3 developed and black Qa5/Qd6. However, the queen has to go to c7 anyway hence lose a tempo, so the queen can be at d8 just as well as at a5 or d6. 

"it's reasonable to trade the loss in tempo with the exchange of the central pawn."
++ the pawn capture 2 exd5 loses a tempo just as well.

AtaChess68
@pfren, were do I claim something about the Scandi being unsound?
AtaChess68
@tygxc, I agree except for the queen that has to go ‘to c7 anyway’ after Qa5 has been played.

I think the queen sometimes finds her place on b6 putting extra pressure on the the d-pawn.

(But black has to be careful to avoid the earlier mentioned queen loss).
Supreme_Gamer_Girl
PoojaSengupta21 wrote:

Same here

I don't know if it helps since I'm a noob but here's a game I won in the scandinavian:



tygxc

#43, #45
That is why it is prudent for black to play ...Qc7.

NervesofButter
AtaChess68 wrote:
Half a tempo here, d pawn there, all quite relative at our level.

I think i had my queen trapped over 50 times playing the Scandi. That is relavant, even on my level.

(And this time I am not joking Pfren).

Then you dont know how to play the Scandinavian.

PawnTsunami
NervesofButter wrote:

Then you dont know how to play the Scandinavian.

Someone should link him the free Chessable course John Bartholomew did on the Scandi to help him at least get some idea on how to play it ...

AtaChess68

 

AtaChess68
PawnTsunami wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:

Then you dont know how to play the Scandinavian.

Someone should link him the free Chessable course John Bartholomew did on the Scandi to help him at least get some idea on how to play it ...

 

Pls send that link, JB is the one who inspired me to take the scandi seriously.

NervesofButter
PawnTsunami wrote:
NervesofButter wrote:

Then you dont know how to play the Scandinavian.

Someone should link him the free Chessable course John Bartholomew did on the Scandi to help him at least get some idea on how to play it ...

I really like their free courses.  Very well done for the most part.

PawnTsunami
AtaChess68 wrote:

Pls send that link, JB is the one who inspired me to take the scandi seriously.

I was hoping someone else would do it so I didn't have to dig through my archive happy.png

The paid course can be found here:  https://www.chessable.com/im-john-bartholomews-scandinavian-defense/course/79/

He greatly expanded the ideas there.  The free course that gives you a good introduction to the opening can be found here:  https://www.chessable.com/im-john-bartholomews-scandinavian-free-version/course/104/

There are also a few anti-scandi courses on Chessable that are very good.

AtaChess68
Thx!
CraigIreland

Sometimes I accidentally play this opening by pre-moving my first move as black.

I have a problem with impatience.