i did a IQ test and got a low number, so i am useless for chess

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chessplayer1292
advaitpawar010 wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
chessplayer1292 wrote:

thankyou, hopefully chess wll raise my IQ, and IQ will raise my chess performance

How will doing the IQ test over and over and then getting a high score improve your chess performance lol?

he was just concluding the forum dude

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AunTheKnight
advaitpawar010 wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
chessplayer1292 wrote:

thankyou, hopefully chess wll raise my IQ, and IQ will raise my chess performance

How will doing the IQ test over and over and then getting a high score improve your chess performance lol?

he was just concluding the forum dude

It still doesn't make sense...

chessplayer1292
AunTheKnight wrote:
advaitpawar010 wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
chessplayer1292 wrote:

thankyou, hopefully chess wll raise my IQ, and IQ will raise my chess performance

How will doing the IQ test over and over and then getting a high score improve your chess performance lol?

he was just concluding the forum dude

It still doesn't make sense...

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chessplayer1292

how do i increase my IQ?

chessmateto

IMHO, IQ is a sham, when connected with chess. True, chess requires intense study of patterns and motifs, which appears similar to IQ Tests, but clearly it is not IQ which impacts chess skill, but chess which impacts the IQ. Do you think Carlsen was born with 190 IQ? No way! He was born average, but as he started playing chess and not worrying about trivialities like IQ, he grew his skill and his IQ was a byproduct of that growth. So please don't give up on chess just because of a meaningless number.

Koridai
AunTheKnight wrote:
chessplayer1292 wrote:

thankyou, hopefully chess wll raise my IQ, and IQ will raise my chess performance

How will doing the IQ test over and over and then getting a high score improve your chess performance lol?

It doesn't. Don't practice IQ tests, IQ is a bad thing to increase. If you improve your IQ you will actually decrease your chess ability.

I would rather have a brain that consists of 20 percent of chess than a brain that consists of 10 percent chess + 10 percent IQ questiontricks.

Increase your chess skill instead, much more usefull.

chessmateto
chessplayer1292 wrote:

any other ways to increase my IQ

In chess related terms, stop playing bullet and blitz and buy chess books which focus on patterns/motifs. But most importantly, have a positive outlook on life happy.png

chessplayer1292

thanks all

PlayByDay
chessplayer1292 skrev:

how do i increase my IQ?

IQ as in your intelligence, "brain power"? Well, you can't. You can on the other hand use it optimaly by giving it good working conditons: get enough sleep, do physical exercises, eat healthy, don't abuse drugs (including coffeine, nikotin, alcohol and sugar) and try learning new things. 

To increase your IQ score you can always do more IQ test and find methods to get better results but then you are only increasing your "IQ test" skill which wil not translate into getting smarter. Same thing also apply to chess beside the basic "learning a new thing" part. Chess players are getting better at analyzing, memorizing and remembering chess patterns, nothing else.

Koridai
Dmfed wrote:
chessplayer1292 skrev:

how do i increase my IQ?

IQ as in your intelligence, "brain power"? Well, you can't. You can on the other hand use it optimaly by giving it good working conditons: get enough sleep, do physical exercises, eat healthy, don't abuse drugs (including coffeine, nikotin, alcohol and sugar) and try learning new things. 

To increase your IQ score you can always do more IQ test and find methods to get better results but then you are only increasing your "IQ test" skill which wil not translate into getting smarter. Same thing also apply to chess beside the basic "learning a new thing" part. Chess players are getting better at analyzing, memorizing and remembering chess patterns, nothing else.

"BRAIN POWER" this says it all, some people just need more repetitions to get the same information in the brain, the amount of "BRAIN POWER" is just how quick information is stored. But people with allot of "BRAIN POWER" might have worse skill/information retention and therefore are worse of in long term than the people with less "BRAIN POWER". 

southroslyn
chessplayer1292 wrote:

i try all the time, but i dont think i am improving

Is chess fun? this is crucial.

nklristic
Daimon_brothers wrote:
nklristic menulis:
Daimon_brothers wrote:

Let's be honest here. It is waste time to improve chess for low to average people like us. Not only improvement Will be little,but also Will stress us out. The answer is yes. Our chess play skill and rating won't go far.

Having hobbies is not a waste of time. If we are all to look something where we will the best in the world, we could wait for a long time indeed. 

It all comes down to what do you want from a hobby.

@chessplayer1292

First of all, if it is an online test, it can be pretty unreliable. Second, you do not have to be a 200 IQ PHD to be great at chess. Some of them might be a lot worse than you if they don't put in any effort. Now I am not saying that everyone can be very good at chess, but a lot of the people (if they wish to apply themselves) can get to a decent level of chess through sheer effort. 

But as I've said, you need to know what do you wish from chess. 

1. You want to improve? Well, you should keep speed chess to a minimum and play some longer games in order to do so. Playing 3 minute chess or even slightly longer games are not the greatest way to improve. You are not really playing the precise game. You play a superficial, tricky game of chess only. Even if you are pretty talented, it will not be easy to improve that way.

2. You like speed chess and it makes you happy? Then just play it casually and don't worry yourself with improvement. 

3. If playing chess is making you feel bad or something to that effect, well you shouldn't waste your time on something that you actually don't like doing. Or if it is not a permanent thing, perhaps taking a break is what you need.

In any case, it is up to you to decide what do you wish to do.

 

Will all due respect,have you ever even see person from 100 rating creeped to 1500 ???

Beside like i said,it is waste time to improve since my progress won't go too far because i can be beaten by people more clever than me. But it is not waste time of you play simply for fun...

I started from 800 here. Before then, I haven't been playing for more than 20 years and even back than I was a little more than a complete beginner. So I almost started from scratch. There are multiple people who started as beginners and have got to over 2 000 here in time. How did they did it? They were most likely very interested in chess and spent a lot of time perfecting their game. Apart from some borderline cases, probably every person on this forum has the ability to get to at least some higher intermediate level (someone said 1 800, and I believe that is possible). But the thing is just if you are ready to do those things for a couple of years and so on. For someone it would require more effort than for someone else as well.

By the way, the only real difference between 100 and 800 is the amount of straight up piece blunders per game. Almost every 100 can get to let's say 1 000 - 1 200 just by sticking to basic principles, slowing down with their longer games (really using their time) and playing some games somewhat frequently. 

How long does it take? It is different for everyone. You might ask then why is the average rating around 800. Because the average person will not take any effort as a casual player. An average chess.com player will just play 10 minute games or shorter and that would be that. 

PlayByDay
Koridai skrev:

"BRAIN POWER" this says it all, some people just need more repetitions to get the same information in the brain, the amount of "BRAIN POWER" is just how quick information is stored. But people with allot of "BRAIN POWER" might have worse skill/information retention and therefore are worse of in long term than the people with less "BRAIN POWER". 

Yea, the "Brain Power" I talk about and which you can improve to your own maximum level include memory, and better sleeps as well as exercise will improve your memory and long term retention. Other part of that is learning how to learn efficiently.

chessplayer1292
Dmfed wrote:
Koridai skrev:

"BRAIN POWER" this says it all, some people just need more repetitions to get the same information in the brain, the amount of "BRAIN POWER" is just how quick information is stored. But people with allot of "BRAIN POWER" might have worse skill/information retention and therefore are worse of in long term than the people with less "BRAIN POWER". 

Yea, the "Brain Power" I talk about and which you can improve to your own maximum level include memory, and better sleeps as well as exercise will improve your memory and long term retention. Other part of that is learning how to learn efficiently.

thanks!!

llama47
CrusaderKing1 wrote:
llama47 wrote:

Nah, IQ tests (real ones) are a pretty good measure.

It's still a silly topic.

IQ tests are to the real word as lie detectors are in the criminal system -- unreliable. There's a reason no one cares about IQ tests. 

Uh huh, sure.

llama47
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

the IQ question is also sloppy, if you do a modern day psychometric test of your intelligence, IQ is only broad aspect of your test results, they will be subsections, specifying where you are above, below/above and by how much etc.

a person with an average IQ but very superior spatial visualization  (like being able to rotate objects flawlessly in your head) may very well do better than dude with an above average iq.

Yeah, relating IQ and chess is silly.

CrusaderKing1
llama47 wrote:
CrusaderKing1 wrote:
llama47 wrote:

Nah, IQ tests (real ones) are a pretty good measure.

It's still a silly topic.

IQ tests are to the real word as lie detectors are in the criminal system -- unreliable. There's a reason no one cares about IQ tests. 

Uh huh, sure.

No admissions committee asks a medical student or law student what their IQ is. No hiring hospital asks what the neurosurgeons IQ is. No one cares and no one reasonable thinks IQ is anything but rubbish. If I were to interview a recent medical school graduate for a residency position at a hospital, never in a million years would I ask or consider IQ, and no medical student would ever be dumb enough to bring up IQ. I agree with Stephen Hawking on this one, IQ tests are meaningless.

"people who boast about their IQs are losers". - Stephen Hawking

jetoba
Daimon_brothers wrote:
Will all due respect ,have you ever even see person from 100 rating creeped to 1500 ???

Beside like i said, it is waste time to improve since my progress won't go too far because i can be beaten by people more clever than me. But it is not waste time of you play simply for fun...

My rating (US) started at 7xx in high school and went to 17xx in college and 21xx while still in my 20s.  Then life got in the way and I never pushed for NM.

My son's rating went from 4xx to 14xx in a 15 year period and a few breaks went his way to keep him from starting even lower.

CrusaderKing1
AunTheKnight wrote:
CrusaderKing1 wrote:
llama47 wrote:
CrusaderKing1 wrote:
llama47 wrote:

Nah, IQ tests (real ones) are a pretty good measure.

It's still a silly topic.

IQ tests are to the real word as lie detectors are in the criminal system -- unreliable. There's a reason no one cares about IQ tests. 

Uh huh, sure.

No admissions committee asks a medical student or law student what their IQ is. No hiring hospital asks what the neurosurgeons IQ is. No one cares and no one reasonable thinks IQ is anything but rubbish. If I were to interview a recent medical school graduate for a residency position at a hospital, never in a million years would I ask or consider IQ, and no medical student would ever be dumb enough to bring up IQ. I agree with Stephen Hawking on this one, IQ tests are meaningless.

"people who boast about their IQs are losers". - Stephen Hawking

You don’t need intelligence for a medical profession. Just knowledge.

I respectfully disagree. In medical school, we had a very small amount of time to fit massive amounts of knowledge. Unfortunately, I would have to say you cannot be of average or less intelligence and reasonably get through medical school based on my anecdotal experiences. Medical school is not challenging because of the massive amounts of learning and obtaining knowledge, its having to do so in such short amounts of time. 

AunTheKnight
CrusaderKing1 wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
CrusaderKing1 wrote:
llama47 wrote:
CrusaderKing1 wrote:
llama47 wrote:

Nah, IQ tests (real ones) are a pretty good measure.

It's still a silly topic.

IQ tests are to the real word as lie detectors are in the criminal system -- unreliable. There's a reason no one cares about IQ tests. 

Uh huh, sure.

No admissions committee asks a medical student or law student what their IQ is. No hiring hospital asks what the neurosurgeons IQ is. No one cares and no one reasonable thinks IQ is anything but rubbish. If I were to interview a recent medical school graduate for a residency position at a hospital, never in a million years would I ask or consider IQ, and no medical student would ever be dumb enough to bring up IQ. I agree with Stephen Hawking on this one, IQ tests are meaningless.

"people who boast about their IQs are losers". - Stephen Hawking

You don’t need intelligence for a medical profession. Just knowledge.

I respectfully disagree. In medical school, we had a very small amount of time to fit massive amounts of knowledge. Unfortunately, I would have to say you cannot be of average or less intelligence and reasonably get through medical school based on my anecdotal experiences. Medical school is not challenging because of the massive amounts of learning and obtaining knowledge, its having to do so in such short amounts of time. 

Ah, I see. Nice anecdote. I retract my statement.