I don't understand people who says chess is hard

SniperGhostWarrior1 wrote:

ESP-918 wrote:

#5

You play blitz I play blitz let's go, SHOW ME! best out of 3 3/2 time limit , no help, no cheating, no crying during or after , best man wins let's go I'm ready!

Oh yeah you want to play chess with me okay then I will send you challenge after  5 days be ready.

5 days ? Why so soon? I thought it's going to be next year.

Talk the talk walk the walk buddy! You said you are going to teach me chess , I'm here ! In your face ! Right now , I'm ready to accept a challenge from you, NOW or NEVER !

Play now or get lost with your miserable excuses, 5 days haha yeah right. Get lost before I embarrasse you more coward.

ima

It depends on how you define "hard". I believe everyone playing chess, especially on chess.com, is trying their best to get a higher score. To some degree, if we always try our best and work hard striving for a higher score, chess is never "hard", because we have faith and hope. To most of us, we'll always meet a peak rating and get stuck there. That's why a rating can evaluate one's ability of playing chess. In this case, chess is "hard" for everyone. Even Carlson loses a game here or there.

I will always go with the former perspective when looking at chess.

The word "Hard" is for people who quit after constantly losing games and losing hope or for people looking down upon others.

BTW, you should learn from FBloggs, who created an interesting thread and changed it into a chatting room after 50 threads, that's way more than 28 threads, man. You have a lot more to go through.

SniperGhostWarrior1 wrote:

ESP-918 wrote:

SniperGhostWarrior1 wrote:

ESP-918 wrote:

#5

You play blitz I play blitz let's go, SHOW ME! best out of 3 3/2 time limit , no help, no cheating, no crying during or after , best man wins let's go I'm ready!

Oh yeah you want to play chess with me okay then I will send you challenge after  5 days be ready.

5 days ? Why so soon? I thought it's going to be next year.

Talk the talk walk the walk buddy! You said you going to teach me chess , I'm hete ! In your face ! Right now , I'm ready to accept a challenge from you NOW or NEVER !

Play now or get lost with your miserable excuses, 5 days haha yeah right. Get lost before I embarrasse you more coward.

ima

Shut up kid I have got some work to do so I am taking 5 days off you know you can't beat me at chess so you are telling NOW OR NEVER if you ain't a girl-ish boy you wouldn't said that.you can't embarrass me dude but I can you think you are the best I AM GONNA PROVE YOU ARE A LOOOOOOO-OOOOSER.

BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA........... oh sorry did you say something?

You claiming to be busy , YET you've been answering MY thread for more then 1 hour already AND you don't have time to play 3mins game ? Ahahahaha YEAH RIGHT!

YOU STARTED IT! you said you are going to teach me chess !!!!!! It's LIKE two guys on the streets ( IMAGEN SCENARIO )

Two guys on the street (say parking lot) they having some INTENSE argument , suddenly situation escalates they are both quite close to each other now , THEN one of the guys say I'm going to teach you a lesson boy !!! ( hoping that another guy get scared and runs away ), but another dude not moving a muscle saying oh yeah!? YES PLEASE ! Do it ! Another guy gets all pumped up, nervous and screams I'm going to kick your arse little boy! Don't mess with me ! I'm serious ! Turns around jumps in his car and screams see ya in 5 days LMAO

#30

Listen man , I don't know how it is in America, but in Russia if you say something, you need to back it up right away.

Enough talking you said you are going to teach me chess , kick my arse etc... Let's do it I'm ready (has been for the last 1 and a half hour , while we having this conversation ) , either play and proove that you are not just talking barbie doll or get lost this is my final response to you, you are busy , haven't eaten, haven't use toilet yet it's your problem not mine I'm here I'm ready in your face ! If you are not it's your problem.

NEW YORK time now is 6.01am I'm giving you 15mins until 6.15 am to challenge me and to proove your trash talk. , after that time I'm gone, whatever your excuse is.

+1

In my mind saying chess is hard sounds like it refer to how hard it is to play a perfect game (a game with no mistakes) or how hard it is to solve chess. Something that not even the top engines have managed to do yet.

geoffpianoman wrote:

Jesus. Some of you really need to take a pill/get a life. IT. IS. JUST. A. GAME. 😂😂😂😂

Official sport! Also science, art and much more then that .

Exactly. Learning how to move the pieces, about pins, forks, openings, endgames etc. is easy enough. But you have to put all of it together during a game.

It's not laziness - chess has a tough learning curve to overcome. When people say "chess is hard" they mean hard to MASTER, not learn.

#36

Most of the time they are saying it, when they can't reach 1000 rating mark

What you and I find easy, someone else might find hard.

If someone can't reach 1000 and is complaining, don't let it bother you.

What, here, is your definition of "hard"?

Chess itself cannot be hard. It's very simple to learn how the pieces move, and a few basic starting principles.

However, improving in chess can be very difficult. Perhaps this is what he is referring to.

When somebody plays against someone 200+ points higher rated than them, no matter what their rating is, they will find the game hard to play. This is because their opponent is setting them problems they are unable to solve.

And of course it is difficult to improve at chess. However, the difficulty increases with your rating. The amount of work someone has to do to get from 800 to 1000, for example, may seem like a difficult task to that player, but will look simple to an 1800, who has experienced much more trying times in improvement.

This thread has stopped being a reasonable discussion and has turned into the OP criticizing/yelling at lower-rated players. I hope that my comment will help it become what it could have been.

#41

All I'm saying is that ANYONE can achieve rating 1000 OTB or online, it's not hard , it's just takes time YES, takes a bit of a brain power YES , but it's not hard.

Becoming GM yes hard, mastering chess yes hard, hitting 2000 mark yes hard, BUT 1000 rating is not hard to achieve for ANYONE, you don't need to study openings, no theory needed, all you need to do is just play the damn game , follow the principles and bam you are there in no time.

Basically all you have to do is just hang only HALF of your pieces and that's more then enough to achieve 1000 mark.

Some people will say playing more then 2 games of chess per day is hard, some people will say thinking is hard, some will say, some will say it's hard to set up a chess board with all the pieces being on their correct squares, etc.... IT'S NOT HARD they are just LAZY !!! For some it's even hard to type here. ......

Brain is a big muscle and when you are not use to using it OF COURSE it's going to be hard, no wonder.

My wife can't play at a 1000 level, despite my repeated attempts to coach her. She also can't solve a Rubik's cube, no matter how many times I try to show her. I've asked her if my coaching style is the problem. She said, "It's not you. I understand what you're showing me. It just doesn't 'click' in my head."

Though, she crushes me in Scrabble. She reads at speeds that leave me in the dust. And her memory relating to conversations is astounding (she can recite, word for word, most conversations she's had).

To test it, I asked her about an online conversation we had a few years ago, on a message board. We conversed hundreds on times on that site, and I chose one of those conversations at random. I pulled up the link and followed the text on screen, while she closed her eyes and recited. To my amazement, she remembered the conversation perfectly. To her it wasn't anything difficult.

Point being, some people are strong in certain areas, while weaker in others.

My wife excels in things dealing with words, language, communication. But in things that involve spacial reasoning and logic (chess, Rubik's cube, etc.), her mind just throws up a wall.

You could argue all day long that, "But.. but.. but it's so easy!" But that assumes that everyone's brain works the same way, and has the same potential. Not true. Not everyone's brain works the same way. And people have greater potential in some areas than others.

SteamGear wrote:

My wife can't play at a 1000 level, despite my repeated attempts to coach her. She also can't solve a Rubik's cube, no matter how many times I try to show her. I've asked her if my coaching style is the problem. She said, "It's not you. I understand what you're showing me. It just doesn't 'click' in my head."

Though, she crushes me in Scrabble. She reads at speeds that leave me in the dust. And her memory relating to conversations is astounding (she can recite, word for word, most conversations she's had).

To test it, I asked her about an online conversation we had a few years ago, on a message board. We conversed hundreds on times on that site, and I chose one of those conversations at random. I pulled up the link and followed the text on screen, while she closed her eyes and recited. To my amazement, she remembered the conversation perfectly. To her it wasn't anything difficult.

Point being, some people are strong in certain areas, while weaker in others.

My wife excels in things dealing with words, language, communication. But in things that involve spacial reasoning and logic (chess, Rubik's cube, etc.), her mind just throws up a wall.

You could argue all day long that, "But.. but.. but it's so easy!" But that assumes that everyone's brain works the same way, and has the same potential. Not true. Not everyone's brain works the same way. And people have greater potential in some areas than others.

Agree to disagree !

Now give your wife a million dollars, she will hit 1000 in one week !

Your wife is not good at chess, not because she's not capable of, but because she doesn't want to be good at it and that's my friend a big difference there.

Some people can't loose weight, no matter what they try (except Ill people of course ) and now look at UFC fighters, they loose 10, 15, EVEN 20 kg in ONE FREAKING DAY !!!!!!!! How? Because they don't have a CHOICE ! they MUST loose it no matter what MUST ! And every single one of them loose weight , wether ordinary people trying to loose 2kg in a year . So as you can see the big differences there is that fighters WANT, WILLING, MUST mind set, whether other group thinking well maybe it's not for me , I can't loose any weight, we'll maybe it's just genetics, we'll maybe I'm good at other things but just not this one of loosing my weight.

All about mind set my friend. Your brains and body capable of anything .

................ id say hitting 1000 was more of the easy to learn part of that quote.

I agree, chess is way harder than hungry hippos.  my four year old got hungry hippos straight away but it took him many many hours to really understand how the pieces move.

Cognitive performance is a different matter than simple motivation.

Ever run into a tactics problem where you simply can't see the solution? You're still trying to see it, and you're motivated to do exactly that. But you can't.

Ever lose a pawn, or blunder a combination, or miss a simple tactic? Why? You were motivated not to make a mistake, and yet you did. Why did it happen?

Because chess is a thinking game, and sometimes your brain has trouble grasping all the nuances of the board. Sometimes your brain just doesn't want to cooperate. 

For some, grasping chess at a 1000+ level is, believe it or not, difficult.

For some, looking at a simple tactic like this (white to move):

And sometimes a player simply can't see that the two rooks can win the queen if she doesn't move. They can stare at the problem for ten minutes straight, and the threat of RxQ still doesn't register in the mind (this isn't a hypothetical scenario, this was a problem I showed my nephew, who struggled to see the RxQ threat. His brain kept telling him that his king was protecting the queen, so his king could simply recapture. I explained it to him, walked through it, then reintroduced the problem again a week later, with the colors reversed. He still thought the king could protect the queen. His mind still hadn't yet learned how to think past it.)

Why do normal threads always end up like this? The author just wants to have some fun and why don't you guys entertain him with the trash words he loves? For those people who take threads seriously, I truly believe you can't reason with him.