I think the WCM title should not be given out anymore

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Idk why it is allowed. Does anyone have a list of opponents she beat. I'm guessing she only beat people from other small British islands like Guernsey?

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I have family from Guernsey. Can I just enter and demolish everyone and get titled?

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David wrote:

The Olympiad is a tournament at which you represent your country. Your country chooses you. Jersey chose her as its first board and she won 4 out of 10 games. If you’re dismissive of that, well, you need to get your country to select you to represent them at an Olympiad and then win 4 out of 10 games there as well. Until then it just sounds like sour grapes from you

Honestly I might just do this and go 10/10 just because of this comment

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

I have family from Guernsey. Can I just enter and demolish everyone and get titled?

Should be simple, right? But Tallulah Roberts has actually put in the work rather than just post empty words on a forum. You’re like the people who sit on the sidelines saying “I could have done that. But, oh my back, oh I’m too busy, oh whatever blah blah blah”, full of a bunch of excuses for not actually going and trying to do it. I’d love you to prove me wrong, tell you what, I’ll gift a diamond membership to a person of your choice if you even just get to an Olympiad. If you earn a title, you won’t need it for yourself since chess.com will give you free diamond membership like it does for all titled players that apply. PS You probably shouldn’t tell the chess federation of Jersey that they’re not really a country but English, as I don’t think that’s going to encourage them to select you to represent them at a chess Olympiad…

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No matter what title you talk about, there's someone who believes you don't really deserve it.

I'm a NM? there's thousands of NMs here who look at my game and think "it's embarrassing I have the same title as that joker"

I'm a GM? I'm sure Hikaru is looking at my 2503 FIDE and saying "that is allegedly my peer? this is outlandish"

I'm a former FIDE world champ like Khalifman? Kasparov calls me a tourist.

I'm current world champ Ding Liren? I bet Carlsen sits in his mansion laughing hysterically at the idea that this dude was given the title.

Who cares what anyone calls themselves? I only applied for the official title so I could get the titled player benefits here. There's no 1400 CM woman out there making bank from that title and neither would you if you had it.

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

Idk why it is allowed. Does anyone have a list of opponents she beat. I'm guessing she only beat people from other small British islands like Guernsey?

lol - you really don’t believe in doing any work at all, even when it’s just searching for stuff that’s available on the internet? Maybe I should ask you to also give away a diamond membership if you don’t participate in an Olympiad in say, the next 5 years or the Olympiad after the next one, whatever is longer. Are you game or are you just hot air?

https://www.sasostrategic.com/post/jersey-s-first-ever-ladies-team-achieve-admirable-results-in-the-44th-chess-olympiad

https://chess-results.com/tnr653632.aspx?lan=1&art=20&fed=JCI&flag=30

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David wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

I have family from Guernsey. Can I just enter and demolish everyone and get titled?

Should be simple, right? But Tallulah Roberts has actually put in the work rather than just post empty words on a forum. You’re like the people who sit on the sidelines saying “I could have done that. But, oh my back, oh I’m too busy, oh whatever blah blah blah”, full of a bunch of excuses for not actually going and trying to do it. I’d love you to prove me wrong, tell you what, I’ll gift a diamond membership to a person of your choice if you even just get to an Olympiad. If you earn a title, you won’t need it for yourself since chess.com will give you free diamond membership like it does for all titled players that apply. PS You probably shouldn’t tell the chess federation of Jersey that they’re not really a country but English, as I don’t think that’s going to encourage them to select you to represent them at a chess Olympiad…

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The tournament performance rating speaks for itself. Not deserving of a title. I could play with knight odds and do better.

She hasn't put in the work like you said, that's why she's a low rating.

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David wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

I have family from Guernsey. Can I just enter and demolish everyone and get titled?

Should be simple, right? But Tallulah Roberts has actually put in the work rather than just post empty words on a forum. You’re like the people who sit on the sidelines saying “I could have done that. But, oh my back, oh I’m too busy, oh whatever blah blah blah”, full of a bunch of excuses for not actually going and trying to do it. I’d love you to prove me wrong, tell you what, I’ll gift a diamond membership to a person of your choice if you even just get to an Olympiad. If you earn a title, you won’t need it for yourself since chess.com will give you free diamond membership like it does for all titled players that apply. PS You probably shouldn’t tell the chess federation of Jersey that they’re not really a country but English, as I don’t think that’s going to encourage them to select you to represent them at a chess Olympiad…

Also I said I had family from Guernsey, not Jersey...

They don't claim to be real countries anyway.

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David wrote:

The Olympiad is a tournament at which you represent your country. Your country chooses you. Jersey chose her as its first board and she won 4 out of 10 games. If you’re dismissive of that, well, you need to get your country to select you to represent them at an Olympiad and then win 4 out of 10 games there as well. Until then it just sounds like sour grapes from you

She's from the same country as me. Jersey isn't even a country, it's English. Shows it's a joke of a tournament.

So by that you meant you think of her as from the UK like yourself, rather than saying that you’re from Jersey as well? 
Good luck with Guernsey thing - still wouldn’t mention to them that you don’t think they’re a real country though. They finished 166th in the Open section (33 places behind Jersey) so it should be a walk in the park for someone of your ability - looks like 2 people on the team didn’t even have FIDE ratings when they went https://chennai2022.fide.com/open-standings/

And by “putting in the work” I meant actually playing OTB and earning representation - she continues to put more work into her chess and improve. She’d only been playing for 18 months when she went to that Olympiad. Put in the work yourself and you’ll surprise yourself with what you can do, but try not to disparage others while you’re at it, because it’s just mean spirited.

My wager offer still stand btw - I see that the Olympiad is held every even year, this years is impractical but 2026 is in Uzbekistan - surely you can earn representation for Guernsey in that time and earn with CM them? It’s so easy!

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David wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:
David wrote:

The Olympiad is a tournament at which you represent your country. Your country chooses you. Jersey chose her as its first board and she won 4 out of 10 games. If you’re dismissive of that, well, you need to get your country to select you to represent them at an Olympiad and then win 4 out of 10 games there as well. Until then it just sounds like sour grapes from you

She's from the same country as me. Jersey isn't even a country, it's English. Shows it's a joke of a tournament.

So by that you meant you think of her as from the UK like yourself, rather than saying that you’re from Jersey as well? 
Good luck with Guernsey thing - still wouldn’t mention to them that you don’t think they’re a real country though. They finished 166th in the Open section (33 places behind Jersey) so it should be a walk in the park for someone of your ability - looks like 2 people on the team didn’t even have FIDE ratings when they went https://chennai2022.fide.com/open-standings/

And by “putting in the work” I meant actually playing OTB and earning representation - she continues to put more work into her chess and improve. She’d only been playing for 18 months when she went to that Olympiad. Put in the work yourself and you’ll surprise yourself with what you can do, but try not to disparage others while you’re at it, because it’s just mean spirited.

My wager offer still stand btw - I see that the Olympiad is held every even year, this years is impractical but 2026 is in Uzbekistan - surely you can earn representation for Guernsey in that time and earn with CM them? It’s so easy!

Just read about jersey and Guernsey I cant be bothered to explain why they're not real countries.

I'm only allowed to play OTB in summer holidays. I started playing chess OTB last summer and was terrible and didn't really know how to play.

Then over the last year I improved really fast and get coached by Danya and am 2500 on lichess and beating CMs in classical training games so I think I could get titled this summer but probably next summer idk. I don't really like chess too much my main hobby is BJJ.

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

I'm only allowed to play OTB in summer holidays. I started playing chess OTB last summer and was terrible and didn't really know how to play.

Then over the last year I improved really fast and get coached by Danya and am 2500 on lichess and beating CMs in classical training games so I think I could get titled this summer but probably next summer idk. I don't really like chess too much my main hobby is BJJ.

I’m hearing nothing but excuses, just like I expected. Have a think about why Robert’s title bothers you so much - it’s basically jealousy and a sense of entitlement on your part, because she’s earned hers and you haven’t, despite your belief that you could “if you really wanted to”. I expect that if you do ever earn a title (which seems highly unlikely at this stage since you don’t even like chess that much) you’ll be much more respectful of the time & effort she’s put into it

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Just read about jersey and Guernsey I cant be bothered to explain why they're not real countries.

Your lack of effort in this and in chess is why you’ll always remain some rando on a chess website and not someone who’s represented their country like Roberts has.

Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man aren’t even part of the United Kingdom, but the Olympiad allows England, Wales and Scotland to compete as separate entities as well, rather than forcing them all to compete together as the UK.

Your relatives in Guernsey would no doubt be ashamed to hear you talk about them as “not a real country”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Dependencies

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David wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

I'm only allowed to play OTB in summer holidays. I started playing chess OTB last summer and was terrible and didn't really know how to play.

Then over the last year I improved really fast and get coached by Danya and am 2500 on lichess and beating CMs in classical training games so I think I could get titled this summer but probably next summer idk. I don't really like chess too much my main hobby is BJJ.

I’m hearing nothing but excuses, just like I expected. Have a think about why Robert’s title bothers you so much - it’s basically jealousy and a sense of entitlement on your part, because she’s earned hers and you haven’t, despite your belief that you could “if you really wanted to”. I expect that if you do ever earn a title (which seems highly unlikely at this stage since you don’t even like chess that much) you’ll be much more respectful of the time & effort she’s put into it

I'm already titled strength, I get coached by Danya and do 90+30 against titled players all the time lol I will play in July when school ends.

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David wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

Just read about jersey and Guernsey I cant be bothered to explain why they're not real countries.

Your lack of effort in this and in chess is why you’ll always remain some rando on a chess website and not someone who’s represented their country like Roberts has.

Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man aren’t even part of the United Kingdom, but the Olympiad allows England, Wales and Scotland to compete as separate entities as well, rather than forcing them all to compete together as the UK.

Your relatives in Guernsey would no doubt be ashamed to hear you talk about them as “not a real country”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Dependencies

Australia is also not a real country. Didn't we dissolve your parliament once...

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

I'm already titled strength, I get coached by Danya and do 90+30 against titled players all the time lol I will play in July when school ends.

"All the time" sounds a bit surprising. Are there many titled players who sit around playing 90+30 games against amateurs?

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MaetsNori wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

I'm already titled strength, I get coached by Danya and do 90+30 against titled players all the time lol I will play in July when school ends.

"All the time" sounds a bit surprising. Are there many titled players who sit around playing 90+30 games against amateurs?

Danya has some titled students. He arranges long games between us sometimes so he has stuff to analyse. I score pretty well so think I might be around titled strength. I'll find out soon anyway.

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I see, that explains it.

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chesssblackbelt wrote:
David wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

I'm only allowed to play OTB in summer holidays. I started playing chess OTB last summer and was terrible and didn't really know how to play.

Then over the last year I improved really fast and get coached by Danya and am 2500 on lichess and beating CMs in classical training games so I think I could get titled this summer but probably next summer idk. I don't really like chess too much my main hobby is BJJ.

I’m hearing nothing but excuses, just like I expected. Have a think about why Robert’s title bothers you so much - it’s basically jealousy and a sense of entitlement on your part, because she’s earned hers and you haven’t, despite your belief that you could “if you really wanted to”. I expect that if you do ever earn a title (which seems highly unlikely at this stage since you don’t even like chess that much) you’ll be much more respectful of the time & effort she’s put into it

I'm already titled strength, I get coached by Danya and do 90+30 against titled players all the time lol I will play in July when school ends.

You'd've thought if he was your coach he'd be at least on your chess.com friends list!

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plus i just checked youve only played titleds in 1 min and once in 3 min