I think the WCM title should not be given out anymore

Either way, her title is irrelevant to the general discussion of the WCM title, it has more to do with the ridiculous tournament titles

LOL yes because your chess rating has everything to do with how smart your opinions are

I understand that on paper you should be able to earn a title - I just don’t think you’re going to put the required effort in to get that title because you’re not going to earn representation at an Olympiad where it seems easier - not with the attitude you have towards the smaller federations, you’d have to get good enough to represent England, which came 10th with a team of all GMs - or get a 2200 rating in OTB FIDE events, which you’re not even really that interested in. You’ve said nothing about whether you’re willing to take up my wager and so no one can take any of your hot takes seriously.

If you want to argue that the Candidate Master titles are lame and shouldn’t be awarded, I have no problem with that. It’s when people start arguing that the women’s versions of those titles aren’t required that they show their ignorance and privilege.

As to whether someone “deserves” a title, I think the amount of time & effort they’ve put in IS relevant. It may not matter as to whether they actually get a title - that’s determined purely on the rules - but we’ve been talking about subjective feelings about it

rating matters for chess arguments yea. its like if a lawyer was arguing with a law student or something.

anyway i agree with soup. i think for any title you should be at least 2000. at around this rating you've put in some effort.

also being british matters for arguments about british countries lol

Respectfully disagree.

I'd say the ones most "deserving" of a chess title are the ones who actually compete OTB and earn their title that way.

Having a superior online blitz/bullet rating doesn't mean much, in the grand scheme of things. It's not throwing your hat in the ring - it's just putzing around online ...

If they don't put in the work it doesn't matter if someone is more talented then the person that actually earned the title

Never said that blitz rating on chesscom meant anything with regard to titles. that's just not the same game as classical chess

The point is that how much investment you put into chess shouldnt matter... participations awards are stupid. Play 5000 otb games but if you arent good you don't deserve a title. Master title means you are a master at chess. otherwise you can have a "Player" title.

OTB is so bad. You have to sit still for 4 hours playing against smelly fat people with no social skills and then when the game ends they want to talk to you.

I think I'm sticking to online chess...tbf they prob never learned how to take care of themselves since school doesn't teach you that and just never figured it out

Now imagine those blokes hitting up any women who might turn up and then tell me that they’re not disadvantaged by the game.

Also pretty clear about who’s never getting a FIDE title lol

I feel attacked

Lol maybe this was too rude. I think it would be ok but it's just hard making friends otb because everyone is in a club already so I'm sitting waiting with my dad all day not speaking to people.

Then if you do speak to people they only talk about really boring things like anime or maths. Nobody even watches football they're like aliens.

I prefer doing BJJ because the people are normal and talk about normal things idk.

because actually being good at chess is a privilege. chess is a meritocracy, not an equity seeking government agency.

WCM is a mcdonald's certificate yes, but if we respect the premise which separated male and female titles, then i see no reason why WCM should not exist. if its that much easier to be a top 1% player in the female category over the open category (around top 1% is what CM is supposed to be), well thats just facts.

I'm fine with women titles. Just as long as there's nobody below 2000 fide because that's when you start being ok at chess.

its more about how chess was generally considered a man sport and now that its more widely introduced to women they have to play catch up in rating

Tbh you can improve so much online without ever revealing you're a girl.

I have proof!

Well you improved 1000 elo in a month so I guess anything is possible??? Did you get good on lichess and come back or something?

I was an OTB player. Also if you check my games you can clearly see nothing is wrong with them. If there was I'm sure Fair Play would be on it. I am also sure they've checked my account because of the increase, and found nothing wrong. I am genuine. If I wasn't how have I beaten a 3000+ IM in 30 sec hyper? So what does rating matter online, it's just a number.