Khnemu_Nehep wrote:
No one cares what you think.
You cared enough to comment.
I think the WCM title should not be given out anymore
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Velocity wrote:
it's like the arena titles. if chess.com aren't including them why are they including woman titles?
Because Arena is a different playing pool and it uses a different rating system, genius.
Now feel free to go and open some more fake accounts to support your claim.
Tychooju12 wrote:
I think all women's and men's titles are unneccessary.
Rating is completely enough.
Just don't think too hard- you may blow some capacitors.
Tychooju12 wrote:
Mazetoskylo wrote:
Tychooju12 wrote:
I think all women's and men's titles are unneccessary.
Rating is completely enough.
Just don't think too hard- you may blow some capacitors.
But you do realize Basque Country exists only in your brain, right? LOL
It is an indication that I like txakoli.
May 23, 2024
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#106
So what? If only 15% of FIDE rated players are women, that's their problem. This shouldn't go to the fact that they now have it easier on them, and to a point where they get privileges that males can't. A very small number of players that are highly rated on FIDE are black, but do we have a Black candidate master tile? Or a Black Grandmaster title? No! So why is this different in the fact that women can get titles men can't???
May 23, 2024
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#107
Mazetoskylo wrote:
Velocity wrote:
it's like the arena titles. if chess.com aren't including them why are they including woman titles?
Because Arena is a different playing pool and it uses a different rating system, genius.
Now feel free to go and open some more fake accounts to support your claim.
Point one - there's no need to comment like that - it's disrespectful and I clearly have not opened any more fake accounts - this one is four years old...
Point two - What's the difference with women then? They have Women's tournaments, which is a different playing field to men!
Velocity wrote:
Point two - What's the difference with women then? They have Women's tournaments, which is a different playing field to men!
Youth Championships, Senior Championships, Women Championships, National Championships and Cups, Amateur Championships, all use the FIDE rating system and the same playing rules, excluding some differences in time controls. Participations are restricted according to age, genre, nationality, or rating, but they do not belong to a "different playing field".
Who knows, one of these days you might get enlightened and understand this...
We have to have a special title for women or there would be too few women masters. Just like we have to let some groups into college easy or there would be too few of them as doctors
Mazetoskylo wrote:
Velocity wrote:
Point two - What's the difference with women then? They have Women's tournaments, which is a different playing field to men!
Youth Championships, Senior Championships, Women Championships, National Championships and Cups, Amateur Championships, all use the FIDE rating system and the same playing rules, excluding some differences in time controls. Participations are restricted according to age, genre, nationality, or rating, but they do not belong to a "different playing field".
Who knows, one of these days you might get enlightened and understand this...
Youth Championships and Senior Championships, are available because they obviously are at a stage in life where there is a hndicap in playing strength. You are advancing the belief that women are inherently weaker and must have their own category. Even if that were true it wouldn't make anyone superior or inferior. What is offensive is implying men want to purposely hold women back.
premio53 wrote:
Mazetoskylo wrote:
Velocity wrote:
Point two - What's the difference with women then? They have Women's tournaments, which is a different playing field to men!
Youth Championships, Senior Championships, Women Championships, National Championships and Cups, Amateur Championships, all use the FIDE rating system and the same playing rules, excluding some differences in time controls. Participations are restricted according to age, genre, nationality, or rating, but they do not belong to a "different playing field".
Who knows, one of these days you might get enlightened and understand this...
Youth Championships and Senior Championships are available because they obviously are at a stage in life where there is a hndicap in playing strength. You are advancing the belief that women are inherently weaker and must have their own category. Even if that were true it wouldn't make anyone superior or inferior. What is offensive is implying men want to purposely hold women back.
May 23, 2024
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#112
Velocity wrote:
So what? If only 15% of FIDE rated players are women, that's their problem. This shouldn't go to the fact that they now have it easier on them, and to a point where they get privileges that males can't.
You need to stack up these "privileges" against the disadvantages they face in the game, as amply demonstrated by your post right there.
Velocity wrote:
A very small number of players that are highly rated on FIDE are black, but do we have a Black candidate master tile? Or a Black Grandmaster title? No! So why is this different in the fact that women can get titles men can't???
Women are 50% of the population in most places around the world, whereas ethnicity varies by geographic location - yes, we should be encouraging more people of all ethnicities to participate in chess, but that's by encouraging the game in those countries. A great example is the growth of the game in India. You know one of the reasons for that? Representation: people can see examples to aspire to, people like them.
May 23, 2024
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#113
chesssblackbelt wrote:
Isn't Africa pretty big? It might be near 50% of the world idk.
Population-wise? Not even close https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_continents_and_continental_subregions_by_population
| Asia | 4,694,576,167 | 59.4% |
|---|---|---|
| Africa | 1,393,676,444 | 17.6% |
| Europe | 745,173,774 | 9.4% |
| North America | 595,783,465 | 7.5% |
| South America | 434,254,119 | 5.5% |
| Oceania | 44,491,724 | 0.6% |
May 23, 2024
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#114
chesssblackbelt wrote:
Oh my school is like 50% Africans so I thought it would be more idk
"Black" isn't limited to continents. You'd have to check what % of the population of each continent is "black" (after defining what you mean by "black").
Velocity wrote:
... women can get titles men can't???
A female-specific chess title is completely different from general chess titles.
I'm not sure why this should be a concern for anyone.
Nothing is preventing you from earning a general chess title yourself - except your own ability. Female titles certainly aren't impeding you in any way ...
MaetsNori wrote:
Velocity wrote:
... women can get titles men can't???
A female-specific chess title is completely different from general chess titles.
I'm not sure why this should be a concern for anyone.
Nothing is preventing you from earning a general chess title yourself - except your own ability. Female titles certainly aren't impeding you in any way ...
TICCPROW
May 24, 2024
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#118
Mazetoskylo wrote:
Velocity wrote:
Point two - What's the difference with women then? They have Women's tournaments, which is a different playing field to men!
Youth Championships, Senior Championships, Women Championships, National Championships and Cups, Amateur Championships, all use the FIDE rating system and the same playing rules, excluding some differences in time controls. Participations are restricted according to age, genre, nationality, or rating, but they do not belong to a "different playing field".
Who knows, one of these days you might get enlightened and understand this...
And what would happen if there was a men only tournament, or a men only title! Imagine the reaction!
May 24, 2024
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#119
David wrote:
Velocity wrote:
So what? If only 15% of FIDE rated players are women, that's their problem. This shouldn't go to the fact that they now have it easier on them, and to a point where they get privileges that males can't.
You need to stack up these "privileges" against the disadvantages they face in the game, as amply demonstrated by your post right there.
Velocity wrote:
A very small number of players that are highly rated on FIDE are black, but do we have a Black candidate master tile? Or a Black Grandmaster title? No! So why is this different in the fact that women can get titles men can't???
Women are 50% of the population in most places around the world, whereas ethnicity varies by geographic location - yes, we should be encouraging more people of all ethnicities to participate in chess, but that's by encouraging the game in those countries. A great example is the growth of the game in India. You know one of the reasons for that? Representation: people can see examples to aspire to, people like them.
But they don't face disadvantages - they have just the same strength as men!
True though this is, it is sad, but not relevant to the topic. We are discussing the fact that womens titles have lower standards, and it is unfair on men that we have to work so much harder to get a title a woman can get with very low elo.
What do you mean “not relevant”? Women are offered titles not for the purposes of fairness towards men but because they have and still are treated unfairly. If chess were actually a level playing field then they wouldn’t need their own titles, but it’s not - it’s how any sort of affirmative action works. If you don’t do anything, the existing entrenched structural disadvantages remain and they’ll never be addressed. See the last article I posted - only 6% of internationally rated players were women in 2001 rising to 15% in 2020. Here’s another article from just last year https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2023/10/05/parents-and-coaches-think-girls-have-less-potential-in-chess-according-to-new-study/#:~:text=New%20research%20has%20found%20real,cause%20for%20this%20gender%20disparity
Women have had their own World Chess Championship for the last 100 years. Judit Polgar is the only woman in history to have a rating over 2700. There are no current women in the top 100 in the world and you sit there and act like men are the only reason women can't compete at the top levels. If Judit Polgar had your attitude of "Oh poor is me I'm just a female being kept down by all the sexist men," she would have never accomplished what she did. If women want equality let them play in tournaments and compete one on one without constantly making excuses.
Men bashing gets old.