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The_Chin_Of_Quinn
Cherub_Enjel wrote:

The Backyard Professor was "popular" only because he was absolutely clueless about his subject matter, yet was very prolific and extremely confident in his (non-existent) abilities. This makes for a spectacle. 

It's much harder to get popular as a real chess player / entertainer. 

Hmm, I guess so.

I think a lot of beginners were fooled by him though, and were genuinely enjoying his videos for the chess.

Cherub_Enjel

Yeah lol, my dad, a beginner who's now an OK player, actually started watching the BYP's videos, thinking they were good, until I told him they were worse than useless. 

Badmarc4

byp is rated 1200.

when he gets an extra thousand, I'll take him seriously

Cherub_Enjel
Badmarc4 wrote:

byp is rated 1200.

when he gets an extra thousand, I'll take him seriously

700* 

http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?14908848

 

The_Chin_Of_Quinn

OP singing:
♪I wanna be, the very best, like no one ever was...♪

 

The_Chin_Of_Quinn

Badmarc4
Cherub_Enjel wrote:
Badmarc4 wrote:

byp is rated 1200.

when he gets an extra thousand, I'll take him seriously

700* 

http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?14908848

 

I puked in disgust how bold that guy is. I'm 2000, still don't feel strong enough to teach as confidently as him.

The_Chin_Of_Quinn

I asked a guy rated 2200 if he has any students. He told me he's not good enough.

I think people don't realize the kinds of difficulties and questions beginners have. 2200 (and 2000) is definitely good enough to answer basic stuff.

For example I had a kid tell me he doesn't like to castle because then you might have a back rank mate happen to you (I think he had recently learned about back rank mate ideas). That sort of misunderstanding isn't hard to correct.

VladimirHerceg91
Cherub_Enjel wrote:
Badmarc4 wrote:

byp is rated 1200.

when he gets an extra thousand, I'll take him seriously

700* 

http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?14908848

 

Do you have the PGN's of his OTB games?

 

Cherub_Enjel
The_Chin_Of_Quinn wrote:

I asked a guy rated 2200 if he has any students. He told me he's not good enough.

I think people don't realize the kinds of difficulties and questions beginners have. 2200 (and 2000) is definitely good enough to answer basic stuff.

For example I had a kid tell me he doesn't like to castle because then you might have a back rank mate happen to you (I think he had recently learned about back rank mate ideas). That sort of misunderstanding isn't hard to correct.

You quickly realize that the main problem players under 1600 USCF have is hanging easy blunders in simple positions because they don't calculate anything or at least check for safety. 

The second biggest problem is weak players trying to apply specific positional ideas they've seen before, but don't understand, incorrectly (or not with tactical soundness), without learning the basics first.

These things can be best understood and quickly corrected by any decent teacher at least 1800. 

A GM, on the other hand, probably forgot about all these things 15 years ago when they stopped becoming issues. 

Cherub_Enjel

And yes:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/the-backyard-professors-uscf-rated-games

Pretty sure @vladimirherceg91 would be able to beat him without trouble

 

VladimirHerceg91
Cherub_Enjel wrote:

And yes:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/the-backyard-professors-uscf-rated-games

Pretty sure @vladimirherceg91 would be able to beat him without trouble

 

Take your tongue out of your cheek. 

The_Chin_Of_Quinn
Cherub_Enjel wrote:
The_Chin_Of_Quinn wrote:

I asked a guy rated 2200 if he has any students. He told me he's not good enough.

I think people don't realize the kinds of difficulties and questions beginners have. 2200 (and 2000) is definitely good enough to answer basic stuff.

For example I had a kid tell me he doesn't like to castle because then you might have a back rank mate happen to you (I think he had recently learned about back rank mate ideas). That sort of misunderstanding isn't hard to correct.

You quickly realize that the main problem players under 1600 USCF have is hanging easy blunders in simple positions because they don't calculate anything or at least check for safety. 

The second biggest problem is weak players trying to apply specific positional ideas they've seen before, but don't understand, incorrectly (or not with tactical soundness), without learning the basics first.

These things can be best understood and quickly corrected by any decent teacher at least 1800. 

A GM, on the other hand, probably forgot about all these things 15 years ago when they stopped becoming issues. 

Hmm, what's an example of applying a positional idea they don't understand?

Would that be something like, I don't know... saying they're doing a pawn storm to make a passed pawn, but it's only move 10, they're behind in development, and also there's no way to make a passed pawn? tongue.png

That's probably too much of an exaggeration, but I'm just wondering what you might give as an example.

I agree about the GM stuff. Also when they start very young, things click and on day they might gain 1 or 2 hundred rating points. If that happened to any of us, we wouldn't know exactly why, it just happens and we can't teach it. 

Cherub_Enjel

I would say that doubled pawns is by far the best example for this. Lots of beginners hate doubled pawns for some reason, even when they're beneficial/neutral. Piece activity and material, far more general, basic positional factors, can tell you when they're good/bad - they are not bad when the lack of mobility of the pawns doesn't restrict your pieces movement or are easily targeted, and can be good when they open lines for your pieces (most often an open file). So if they relied on activity+material as evaluations, they'd play much better. 

For example, in this game, on move 9, my 1800 USCF opponent gave away the bishop pair to give me doubled, isolated pawns, which were actually good for me:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-analysis/dangerous-pawngrabbing-in-unfamiliar-positions-instructive-annotated-game

 

The_Chin_Of_Quinn

Oh yeah, doubled pawns, that's an excellent example.

I remember doing that myself after first learning about them. Eventually I found out it's not an automatic win lol (I really thought it was a big deal).

Cherub_Enjel
VladimirHerceg91 wrote:
Cherub_Enjel wrote:

And yes:

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/the-backyard-professors-uscf-rated-games

Pretty sure @vladimirherceg91 would be able to beat him without trouble

 

Take your tongue out of your cheek. 

I mean exactly what I said - this guy's never beaten anyone higher than 700. 

Pashka27

wow wow wow never got so many replieshappy.png

Indirect

I had totally forgot about the backyard professor. I need to rewatch those, they were so funny, lol

VladimirHerceg91

 You should contact Kingscrusher and see if you guys can do a duet. Like play each other with both of you commentating. 

ChePlaSsYer
Indirect wrote:

I had totally forgot about the backyard professor. I need to rewatch those, they were so funny, lol

Nice way to kill brain cells lol.