If Albert Einstein played chess he could have been one of the greatest Chess Player🏤🏡⛲
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MitSud
Sep 14, 2017
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#61
My IQ is slightly higher than Einstein's. While being good at chess may lead to having a high IQ, a high IQ, doesn't mean being good at chess.
MickinMD wrote:
I'll say false. I have a measured IQ of 147 and have known two people so much brighter than me - in theoretical chemistry - that I can't conceive of how they generate good solutions so fast and knowing them made me relate to how people who are mentally slow must think of smarter people.
Nevertheless, they were not intuitively good at games like chess and go, and I think it was because their spacial/geometric vision wasn't so good - even though they could describe exactly how a person traveling at the speed of light would see stationary objects in a distorted way.
I also have limitations in that way. A new store will open up on our main highway that I pass by 15 times in a month without noticing. I have a 2116 USCF correspondence rating from the 1970's when no home computer engines were around to cheat with, I coached a high school team to tournament and county champion and 3 state trophies for 3rd, 4th, and 5th, but I've never had a great OTB rating.
So IQ is clearly far from the only factor.>>>
I have a ridiculously high measured IQ but I didn't take naturally to chess. I only played it because I enjoyed it, up to 1987, when I joined the local chess club. My first rating was ECF (or BCF at that time) of zero. Not many people ever had a grade of zero. My next was 89, then 106, then 132, then 149 etc. 149 equates to ELO 1800 approx. So you can see I wasn't a natural at chess and what I achieved was done by hard work.
My wife's IQ was, I think, 156 as measured by Mensa. Much lower than mine, and she can't play chess at all. But she can draw pretty pictures of ponies and girls with 1960s haircuts. She has a really good job but can't play chess. My son is a top class mathematician but he doesn't play either, although he did up to the age of 12 or 13.
There's nothing about Einstein that would make one assume that he would have been a top class chess player. Indeed, his known traits of irritability, bad-temperedness and impatience might have caused him to be not very good at all.
sammy_boi wrote:
monkeychess09 wrote:
Albert Einstein had a excellent IQ
You don't know this, and you don't know how IQ relates to chess.
monkeychess09 wrote:
anybody thinks if he tried he could have been in the leagues of Fischer Kasparov or carlsen
No. Skills are unique. I'm sure he could have been a very good player if he had started young, worked hard, and had a passion for chess, but it's doubtful he could have been one of the very best. Different skills are different.
I agree, and I think Einstein would be chanceless, because he didn't have the enthusiasm for chess. I guess he was smart enough but enthusiasm is required to go all the way above 2700. Magnus is a true enthusiast, and supertalent both in maths and memory, he his physically very fit and he hates to lose. Winner instinct. All those talents that Magnus has is a combination that is very unusual. Einstein probably had some of these talents, and he had enough talent to become fantastic in the field were he had enthusiasm.
MitSud wrote:
My IQ is slightly higher than Einstein's. While being good at chess may lead to having a high IQ, a high IQ, doesn't mean being good at chess.
Doubtful, and no...there is no evidence of any kind that being good at chess "leads" to having a high IQ.
IQ is an antiquated measure in any case, but the claims of 160+ IQs on this site are laughable regardless. We're talking about a 99.9968313965% percentile, here. A 160+ IQ married to 156 IQ? Somebody has a Mensa chapter that wants to make more money on membership dues, or maybe they are just lonely...
Someone here was saying that they only have a 130 IQ. 130 IQ is near genius level, and close to the 98th percentile. Yet if you post a thread here, 130 seems low, and you will find that about half of the people think they are 1 in 100, and a good chunk think they are 1 in 30000...what a load of BS.
My most "official" IQ test was 138...which seems inflated. My SAT scores are 99th percentile, which would be closer to 135. I have, however taken online IQ tests that score me at 150+...they are complete hogwash. Inflating IQ results leads to more website visitors, more paying membership dues, more magazines sold, etc. It's that simple. Everyone likes to think they are a hero/genius.
When the BBC did their documentary on intelligence, which Susan Polgar participating, they scoured the countryside for the smartest people they could find. They had 1 single guy with a verified 160 IQ. He lost, by the way, in the overall results. Susan Polgar was near the bottom, as well, for those of you on your "chess = high intelligence" kick.
darthion wrote:
chriscross88 wrote:
Magnus Carlson is the best chess player in the world ... I probably know more about Norwegian history, literature and classical music than he does
yeah, yeah. very opinionative. Magnus Carlsen isn't the best player. just because he's world champion doesn't mean he is the greatest overall.
then who was?
If Einstein played chess seriously, China 🇨🇳would rule the world right now. 🀄️🉐🈹㊙️🈲㊗️🈵
I KNEW SOMEONE WHO PLAYED CHESS WITH EINSTEIN. A German SCIENCE PRO WHO KNEW
HIM FROM THE OLD DAYS. HE WAS NOT A GOOD PLAYER. BUT HE BELIEVES IF HE PUT ALL
HIS MIND TO IT HE WOULD BE GREAT.
Sep 4, 2018
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#68
Quite a few physicists play/played chess, but very few did it competitively. There really is a world of difference between playing a game and competing in it.
Sep 4, 2018
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#69
Chess demands everything you have got I you wish to really master it. That takes time away from doing other things.
I'm sure Einstein would have been relatively good at chess.
Relatively. Relitivety. Get it?
Eh?
Tough crowd.
Relatively. Relitivety. Get it?
Eh?
Tough crowd.
Sep 4, 2018
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#71
VicountVonJames wrote:
I'm sure Einstein would have been relatively good at chess.
Relatively. Relitivety. Get it?
Eh?
Tough crowd.
Relatively. Relitivety. Get it?
Eh?
Tough crowd.
lol
ilovesmetuna wrote:
monkeychess09 wrote:
Albert Einstein had a excellent IQ but he never played the mind game of chess seriously but do anybody thinks if he tried he could have been in the leagues of Fischer Kasparov or carlsen true or False🏰
i reckon he would have gotten seriously bored with dweebing over chess pieces and returned quickly to science to do something worthwhile with his life.>>>
False. Einstein wasn't temperamentally suited to chess. He had serious problems with anger management, for instance. He was violent. Such people don't tend to succeed at chess.
Sep 4, 2018
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#73
I have noticed that Chess requires a certain strength of personality. 130 should be plenty of IQ, imo to be an excellent player, given the right psychological traits.
Sep 4, 2018
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#74
Talented people are often talented in few disciplines, but not brilliant in all of them.
Sep 4, 2018
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#75
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/livechess/auto-abort-rating#last_comment
If a person with an average IQ enters a chess monastery for ten years sorrounded by greatest books ever written, taught and challenged by some of the greatest chess players of the past, puts his mind, body and soul to learning the game. Would he be able to challenge and win against the super GMs of today? I think so.
I have read a few articles about Einstein. None mentions that he was violent or that he had anger management issues. Where did you read that?>
I did quite extensive research before 911. After 911, the American-Israeli pact decided to deify Einstein so it is no longer possible to get the real facts online, because his image is protected by agents acting on behalf of his estate, which is quite understandable, because Einstein is held up as a great example to us all. My father knew people who knew Einstein, though. Although when he was much older, he denied any memory of this, back in the 1950s my father told me that the scientists he knew who knew Einstein didn't like Einstein. He didn't tell me the reason at the time, because I was very young, so I did some research later in life.
It's definitely in my brain because most thoughts do occur in our brains, except for the brains of people who post comments like that one, which don't contain meaningful thoughts at all.
Sep 4, 2018
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isabela14 wrote:
If Einstein played chess seriously, China 🇨🇳would rule the world right now. 🀄️🉐🈹㊙️🈲㊗️🈵
Wait why
Why those houses and a fountain in the title?
