if both players chose only the best options, would white always win due to the begging advantage?

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ProudDaddy18
what do you think, white always wins or it always goes to a drawn?
zembrianator
ProudDaddy18 wrote:
what do you think, white always wins or it always goes to a drawn?

Caesar49bc

I think both Alpha Chess Zero and Leela Zero will only play the Catalan as white unless forced to use an opening book and a randomizer.

Short of solving chess, as in computing every possible board position, it would be imposible to say if black can always force a draw or if white always wins.

Perhaps someday chess will be solved, but not without using quantum computers and holographic memory storage.

ChessieSystem101
IMBacon wrote:

Begging doesn't help in chess.  And as humans we do make mistakes, so it would never happen.

your right. Begging wouldnt help.

n8boy
Google has started to succeed with quantum computers, check it out in news, it only happened very recently. So next 10-20 years chess will be solved for sure
autobunny
ChessieSystem101 wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

Begging doesn't help in chess.  And as humans we do make mistakes, so it would never happen.

your right. Begging wouldnt help.

Of course begging helps - the game plays by itself as beggars can't be choosers 

ProudDaddy18
HiMyNameIsFleur wrote:
autobunny wrote:
ChessieSystem101 wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

Begging doesn't help in chess.  And as humans we do make mistakes, so it would never happen.

your right. Begging wouldnt help.

Of course begging helps - the game plays by itself as beggars can't be choosers 

Nice concept but needs a lot of work on the  delivery  

what are you guys talking about? The only definition of begging that I know is asking for STH in an emotional way.

jordanseverns

CHESS is not a solved game! we do not know who truly has  the advantage, given the perfect moves. our small human minds might assume that white has the advantage, but only mathematics may give us a decisive answer. 

autobunny
ProudDaddy18 wrote:
HiMyNameIsFleur wrote:
autobunny wrote:
ChessieSystem101 wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

Begging doesn't help in chess.  And as humans we do make mistakes, so it would never happen.

your right. Begging wouldnt help.

Of course begging helps - the game plays by itself as beggars can't be choosers 

Nice concept but needs a lot of work on the  delivery  

what are you guys talking about? The only definition of begging that I know is asking for STH in an emotional way.

if both players chose only the best options, would white always win due to the begging advantage?

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/if-both-players-chose-only-the-best-options-would-white-always-win-due-to-the-begging-advant

autobunny

@himynameisfleur, probably ygnr, just bit the dust.