There is no actual question.
The question can be seen at the top of the post. Take it upon yourself to answer. Assume I give you no extra base to aid you with the point or relativity of this question. Just simply look at it. And answer to the best of your ability?
OP is not asking any question, and not even proposing a starting point.
What OP says, is as good as saying "If camels are real, how come birds are flying in the sky?".
This is lousy and sloppy a job.
OP should at the very least, since wants a "discussion", give that discussion any proper starting point.
Non OP spoke. Ugh.
Then answer the question.