Schachfan1, Bobby's Ruy Lopez was his weapon against 1...e5 and he won against the best GMs, Karpov would of had trouble with Fischer opening repertoire, extremely aggressive.
Fischer was just dangerous with the white-side of the Ruy Lopez.
If Fischer would played Karpov for the World Champion, who would win?
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Jun 27, 2014
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#23
It was not just comparative results with Korchnoi. Karpov lacked the physical stamina to play well in the end of long matches. He faded against Kasparov too. FIDE halted one match because Karpov was cratering.
Fischer knew exactly what he was doing in his demands to defend his title.
It is really pitty that Bobby ... did not want to give a chance (both for himself and for others) to see the real strength of the elite chessplayers of 1975, maybe he had reasons to deprive the chess world of watching the championship match
Fischer quit chess in 1972 and probably just needed an excuse not to have to play in 1975. Before the match against Spassky he had declared that he would be a very active World Champion, then as soon as he won the title he quit. Maybe he just wanted to be able to say to himself that it was FIDE that had stopped him from continuing, while he in fact stopped playing years earlier. If someone somehow could have made him sit down to play a match against Karpov the most probable outcome is maybe that Fischer would withdraw from it before it was over, like he had withdrawn from several previous events and almost did also against Spassky.
Jun 27, 2014
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#27
I think it depends on how much chess Fischer played from 72 to 75. He may or may not have studied during that period, but did he play anyone of any ability during that time? Would Fischer have bested Karpov? It's impossible to know. Exactly how rusty WAS he in 75? How strong physically and mentally was he? No one but Fischer knew the answer and perhaps that's why he didn't play in 75....
Jun 28, 2014
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#28
Remember that Fischer had two prior periods of isolation from competitive chess, and came back stronger than ever each time.
Benzodiazepine wrote:
I'm yellin' Fischer 'till my throat is raspy.
Amen to that!
A lot of people are forgetting to add "in my opinion", remember its speculation, we cannot and will not know as they never played.
3 years of a chess break, is a very long time too and as one member pointed out we don't know if Bobby was fit for competitive play.
Jun 28, 2014
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#31
After withdrawing from the 1967 Tunisia Interzonal due to a dispute about the playing schedule, Fischer played and won in just the two tournaments he played during 1968 (Netyana, Israel and Vinkovci, Yugoslavia - both rather strong). He then dropped out of competition, save for one game against his friend Tony Saidy, for 18 months.
He reappeared as 2nd Board (behind Larsen) in the "Match of the Century" - in which he destroyed Petrosian.
Those who knew him, knew that he studied constantly, even if he was not actively playing.
True, but we still cannot extrapolate.
JaimieDelaroa, your facts are totally correct, you know a lot Fischer. 'The Match of the Century", Bobby step down to play Petrosian instead of Spassky, a wise move on Fischer part.
Jun 28, 2014
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yureesystem wrote:
JamieDelarosa, your facts are totally correct, you know a lot Fischer. 'The Match of the Century", Bobby stepped down to play Petrosian instead of Spassky, a wise move on Fischer part.
Bent Larsen had been the most successful of the active non-Soviet players in 1969 and 1970. I think, for once, Fischer was being practical and gracious. He was not always the enfant terrible.
Jun 28, 2014
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#35
Fischer would have won that without a question.
Which means something since Karpov is my favorite player.
Karpov himself was in the same opinion recently, although he stated in 1978 things could be different...
Fischer in the 70s became an unstoppable freight train. He dominated his contemporaries many who thought could've given him a hard time. After winning in 1972, he didn't play for 3 years. Would he have still been at top speed? Who knows. I think had Fischer trained harder than anyone else, it seems the train would have kept on rolling. But Karpov was a rising talent in the world...
I think just because of Fischer's extremely good calculation skills and All-Around ability, he would have beaten Karpov.
Slight edge to Fischer in 75'. Slight edge to Karpov in 78'. Total dominance by Karpov in 81' (assuming Fischer kept playing).
I dpnt know. One can only wonder,
What if wouth won cilvil war
Axis win ww ii?
Jun 28, 2014
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rdecredico wrote:
And this idea that Fisher was working alone is 100% false. You revisionists are something else here with your hero worship.
Fischer was great in his very brief time. Then he did nothing. His level of play has been surpassed by several people in the intervening time.
A true champion would have shown up to play Karpov in 1975.
That you Fischerphiles use this as something noble is itself deeply telling of your dementia with regard to Fischer.
Fischer revolutionized chess. Fact!
jonnguy2014 wrote:
I dpnt know. One can only wonder,
What if wouth won cilvil war
Axis win ww ii?
The South had about as much chance in a long war as Karpov did in a long match - none.
At The National Open in Las Vegas (June 2014) I asked IM Saidy this question and he indicated Bobby would have won. In part he said "Karpov may have had a team of 12 Grandmasters providing him variations, but Bobby was locked in his hotel room figuring them out for himself! What does that tell you about who was stronger." I may have a word or two wrong in the quote, but I agree that Bobby was a psychological killer in the form of a chess maniac, and would have destroyed Anatoly.
I also listened to Dr. Saidy's lecture that day, and can confirm he said this.
But I still think Karpov would have won three years later, in 1978. By that time he was much stronger and Fischer was just too rusty. Taking six years off will do that.