You'll sometimes hear of opening 'systems' that allow you to stick to a given sequence of moves with (relatively) little regard to what your opponent does (like in the King's Indian Attack for instance), but for the most part it takes two to tango (i.e. if the other person is square-dancing, you really *can't* tango). 
I'll use this opening no matter what!!!
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If a pawn or piece gets captured during this fixed opening, and you are supposed to move it, then what?
If I knew you would play 1 c5 no matter what I would play b4.
DeepGreene wrote:
... (i.e. if the other person is square-dancing, you really *can't* tango).
Actually, the one exception is in chess, where the two knight's tango is techincally also "square" dancing....
Ehh, I'd be leery of this plan. What I DO recommend instead, however, is to always use that move against e4. Pick something different against d4, like Nf6, g6 (my favorite!), f5, etc. And pick something else to always use against Nf3 and c4, the other most common openings. This worked for me -- just don't use c5 against everything, you need to adapt somewhat to white's first move or you'll get squashed right off.
If a piece got captured then the selected moves would get cancelled and you would have to start over with another set of moves...it is really for the opening like the first few moves. Conditional moves should be started more the later you get into the game of course. But the later you wait the less difference there would be between conditional moves and my suggestion...but if you really felt gutsy you could string out a lot of moves...
It wouldnt take "two to tango" in this instance because you have no regard to what they are going to do. Actually technically there is two "tangoing" lol. The opponent is going to move and not in all circumsatances would they know what you are going to do...example the first two maybe three moves. I dont know I guess this would help give you extra time if there was a game about to start and you know you wont be on for a while so go ahead and setup your moves. It's better than losing...it also would cut down on having to setup so many conditional moves right out of the starting gate on a game. Afterall there are 20 moves that you can make at the start of any game.
"If I knew you would play 1 c5 no matter what I would play b4." Yes that could be a funny thing if you set up a tournament just blurting out what you are going to do...but if you dont then the opponent will never know what you are going to do anyways. Like I said IF you feel gutsy enough to do this then go for it lol. But until your set move is made your opponent would still have to get lucky enough to make the right opening decisions...
steevmartuns wrote:
Ehh, I'd be leery of this plan. What I DO recommend instead, however, is to always use that move against e4. Pick something different against d4, like Nf6, g6 (my favorite!), f5, etc. And pick something else to always use against Nf3 and c4, the other most common openings. This worked for me -- just don't use c5 against everything, you need to adapt somewhat to white's first move or you'll get squashed right off.
Thats what conditional moves are there for...
Mainly what this is about is having the ability to not have to guess what the opponent is going to do. You have a plan and you are sure it is going to work no matter what so you set up a few moves and there you go...also if you get put into check the moves would be cancelled...
It can't work because I will set up a scholars mate.
There is a chess varation where both sides can set their pieces up anywhere on their side of the board but they can't see where the other person doing.
yes what you are describing is a bad idea
this is know as a system such as the colle system or the stonewall system, and system are a good idea but you only see them as white "i think" the colle and stonewall are systems but they have been perfected by masters so i would not come up with your own
HeavyArtillery wrote:
yes what you are describing is a bad idea
oh ok so what about this position for example that came up in a game that I just recently had?
As you can see that no matter what I will advance the pawn and promote to queen, theres almost nothing else he could have done except push the g pawn and then what? At least I could have two maybe three moves setup for my queen. What if I went away for awhile? At least this would have bought me a little time to make my next move. No this isnt a bad idea really, and nobody said you would have to use it. Or i guess maybe i could sit there and put in about 6 different variations within conditional moves instead of just setting up a string that I would end up doing anyways. It keeps the guess work out of what an opponent will do and gets you straight to the point. But whatever its not like i care if people develop a program for it or not it was just a suggestion.
Today I was at work, just thinking about chess (working too :)) and thought of something and was wondering if anyone else seconds my opinion. The thought crossed my mind is that what if you could set up certain games to (mainly tournaments) where if white makes any move at all then black would do specifically chosen moves. I know it might be confusing but in short here's an example...white moves___, then black moves c5 (the move black will make no matter what white does). I know you might be thinking this is the same as conditional but not exactly because you wouldnt have to guess what move the other player will do and just automatically move your pieces...
For example a tournament is setup so that black will use the sicillian but white is welcome to use whatever opening they want...In my opinion if you think you are just the greatest at using a certain opening then have some guts and set one of these games up!
Please all feedback is welcome I just want to know if this might be a good idea or not. If it is confusing well I dont really know any other way of explaining what crossed my mind but hopefully this is clear and I will answer questions if at all possible...