im going to face 2000s otb

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blueemu wrote:

A year or so ago, I gained 400 rating points within a few seconds.

 

Top that.

lol

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beating a gm to get 400m ratingers mus6 be good@

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blueemu wrote:
ricorat wrote:

Hehehehe when I was 600 I looked up to 2000's like they were some kind of god. Now I'm close to 2k and realize they're just slightly better than me

Now you look up to 2350s instead.

Cough cough you 😐

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Immaculate_Slayer wrote:
ChesswithNickolay escreveu:
Immaculate_Slayer wrote:
ChesswithNickolay escreveu:
Immaculate_Slayer wrote:
ChesswithNickolay escreveu:
darkbrah7654 wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:

You cannot win. That's a fact. I cannot win against 2400 rated opponents on chess.com, and I can't win against 2100 OTB. You have to go for a draw, try to trade everything unless it is a horrible trade, I got to a winning endgame against an FM that way.

its not a fact lmao

though yes the chance of winning against a 2000 otb is small

For me a chance of winning against a 2000 is not that small, so I don't play for a draw.

You're talking like you can beat a 2000 and I can't

You don't even know how good I am in classic chess.

Um we have an almost 200 point difference, What is your rating classical OTB or lichess classical? 
Sure I can't beat a 2000, but I have somewhat a chance, and plus, there are only two 2000 rated players here in Canada under 12.

I already said I don't have a OTB classical rating

And again, you're not an 1800. Also, classical is way different from rapid.

I think you're just using this thread and every single other to say how good you are compared to other people. This isn't even supposed to be about you.

Um I beat a 1800 in OTB Classical. I don't know about you, but 1800 in my country can easily qualify you as top 3 in Canada under 12, heck a 1700 took 3rd under 12 in Canada last year.

Don't act like you're that superior to me when my rating climb is clearly higher than yours.

Let's see if you're still "200 points higher" than me in some months.

You can block him to stop more nonsense of this kind.

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Trophies100 wrote:

there’s not much to do I see people say play to draw I personally don’t think that’s a good idea 

Agreed.

You don't get a draw by playing safe moves. You get a draw by playing GOOD moves.

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ChesswithNickolay wrote:
blueemu wrote:
Trophies100 wrote:

there’s not much to do I see people say play to draw I personally don’t think that’s a good idea 

Agreed.

You don't get a draw by playing safe moves. You get a draw by playing GOOD moves.

No, you get a draw by playing for a draw, you get a win by playing good moves.

Aren't you ignoring the role of your opponent? If your plans are predicated on hoping that the opponent blunders, your progress is going to stall as soon as you climb high enough to face opponents who do NOT blunder in every game.

What if he plays good moves?

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When I think of "playing for a draw", I think of a player aiming for safe, simplifying moves - steering the game toward balanced and dry positions.

When I think of "playing for a win", I think of a player aiming for sharp, complicating moves - steering the game toward imbalanced and messy positions.

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blueemu wrote:
ChesswithNickolay wrote:
blueemu wrote:
Trophies100 wrote:

there’s not much to do I see people say play to draw I personally don’t think that’s a good idea 

Agreed.

You don't get a draw by playing safe moves. You get a draw by playing GOOD moves.

No, you get a draw by playing for a draw, you get a win by playing good moves.

Aren't you ignoring the role of your opponent? If your plans are predicated on hoping that the opponent blunders, your progress is going to stall as soon as you climb high enough to face opponents who do NOT blunder in every game.

What if he plays good moves?

I always found that the best way to get a draw was to play for a draw. That's when I was starting out. You don't win by playing safe moves but by playing for traps. If there's a choice between a safe, developing move or one that maybe slightly improves your position and introduces the possibility of complexities, then if you can see enough lines in the latter that either may lead your opponent into an unsound attack or simply overload your opponent mentally, giving him a vast array of complex moves all of which you probably have a position sufficient to at least hold your own in, and a couple of safe lines he can go into where actually you develop a small edge, and you want to win, then go for the latter, even if such a move is very slightly worse than the first option, which is the move that's safe and sound. It's still probably a good move and your results, in that style of play, will reflect how good you actually are at seeing just two plies further than your opponent, in a variation that has about a dozen divergencies. Such calculations take time and there's a trade off between time used and the number of potentially winning continuations you can generate. Playing for a win is therefore the more risky option.

I think that someone is missing the point that if you play merely good moves and your opponent plays good moves too, then it could be you who suffers in the end.  On the other hand, playing very safely also tends to build up a time advantage, which can be traded for an agreed draw or for the potential to reinvest that time in calculation.

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playing for a draw literally depends on what you're playing - for example, if your play the b5 najdorf against bg5(a very sharp variation), you're allowing the qe2 nxe6 variation, which allows white to comfortably draw. If you play, as, the caro, there are certain variations that lead to mass complications.

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little_guinea_pig escreveu:

that's only 100 lower, i can beat 2000s online easy (of course I'm tilted lol)

how are you 2000 then?

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@immaculateslayer dont worry about the result play what u think is the best move in all positions and if u lose then analyse, study and get better because nobody in the word can expect to win all their games. You can only hope to improve along the way

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Good one. 

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little_guinea_pig wrote:

I gotta be honest, you don't stand much chance.

2000 OTB players are scary - they never blunder, can often calculate 10 or more plies, have strong positional play

What you're describing sounds more like a 2500+ grandmaster.

2000s certainly make occasional blunders, and it's more common for them to calculate about 2 to 3 moves ahead.

They likely won't hang a piece for no reason. Though they might wander into a continuation that, after the dust settles, leaves them with a weakened pawn structure, or ends up leaving their pieces on inferior squares.

Like any player, a 2000's weaknesses become more apparent when you see them play against higher-rated opponents. (Higher-rated experts, for example. Or against masters.) ...

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I agree, there's definitely a big difference between the quality of blitz games and OTB classical. thumbup.png

My main point is that 2000s do make mistakes. They're just less obvious than one-move blunders. There's still a chance of beating them - but you have to play sound chess to do it.

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Immaculate_Slayer wrote:
little_guinea_pig escreveu:

that's only 100 lower, i can beat 2000s online easy (of course I'm tilted lol)

how are you 2000 then?

his peak is near 2300 blitz, he can be a genius or a patzer tongue.png

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little_guinea_pig wrote:
ninjaswat wrote:
Immaculate_Slayer wrote:
little_guinea_pig escreveu:

that's only 100 lower, i can beat 2000s online easy (of course I'm tilted lol)

how are you 2000 then?

his peak is near 2300 blitz, he can be a genius or a patzer

i hung 4 queens in a 12 game match yesterday and still managed to draw 6-6 lol

And you see what I mean tongue.png

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ninjaswat wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:
ninjaswat wrote:
Immaculate_Slayer wrote:
little_guinea_pig escreveu:

that's only 100 lower, i can beat 2000s online easy (of course I'm tilted lol)

how are you 2000 then?

his peak is near 2300 blitz, he can be a genius or a patzer

i hung 4 queens in a 12 game match yesterday and still managed to draw 6-6 lol

And you see what I mean

   

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so uh I just beat a 2000 online thanks for the support

now I have to beat a national 2000

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Pepega_Maximum wrote:

I actually went to a tournament as a 1933. I played 6 games. I won 1 game (against 2103) and drew the rest. Opponents that I drew: 2207, 2313, 2343, 2158, and 2006. This tournament helped me reach 2009. I used the same strategy as presented earlier in the forum (Going for the draw by simplifying the position)

This man is Carl schlecter 2.0