Impossible to beat Computer

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Chess_Champion26

 Do you think that one day scientists and grandmasters will conjure up an unbeatable computer that will beat the greatest player(s) at the time?

dwaxe

Yes, absolutely.

But once we create technology that can enhance our intelligence, that technology will grow faster than chess software, so it will be even for a long time to come.

P.S. Sorry, bad wording,
ep_knightsman

yes. the question is whether we get that first or the technology to make a human an unbeatable chess player. whatever happens i think that the unbeatable computer will come first.

 


jhuschstp
Yeah, probably but I don't like it and I like to think it won't happen.
Chess_Champion26
 I agree, chess software keeps getting more advanced!
maniac2008
yea... even i managed 2 beat the computer lol
Chess_Champion26
ahhhhhh .... cool,
darius
The chess computers are all phony. In the old days, there was a man inside a box who made the moves for the so-called machine. Today, there is a hidden cadre of chess experts in the himalayas who are wired up to all the chess computers created, and they make the moves for the so-called machine. It amazes me how gullible some people are. Chess machines! Bah! This trick has been perpetrated on the public since the 1800's and people still fall for it.
maniac2008
lol ... i thought i was soo good cos i beat the comp... lol
chessplayer110
me too it was so easy. I forked it's King, bishop, rook, and queen. I took the queen.
dwaxe
Try doing that against Fritz, Rybka, or Shredder at full power...
alex95
Every new version of chess computers will get better!
Vibovit

Computers are already unbeatable at tic-tac-toe and more recently the same has happened with checkers ;]

The complexity of chess, however much greater, isn't infinite either. So. That Rybka is (on average) stronger than the best of the best [human players], doesn't mean it plays perfectly - but such level of strength, too, will be achieved.

I know that there are doubts if perfect play in chess exists, but it's simply a matter of generating something like Nalimov tables only for 32 pieces not 6 (7?)

Perhaps in future, the ultimate test for human grandmasters will be "how many moves can you last against God-like play"? And that number of moves would just replace ELO as more accurate rating of one's strength of play Wink


maniac2008

after i beat the comp ... i went and told all my mates and they was like 'yeah and... we always beat the computer' i was sooo gutted ... i thought that no1 can beat the computer ... lol


VLaurenT
I'm not sure the best players in the world today would be able to beat Rybka, even on an occasional basis.
EnGliSHCheSsPlAy
I think so
Slotemeyer
For all those who don't like being beaten by a computer: Switch to 'go'. Even medium skilled players can beat the best go-software available.
Zazmio

Everyone knows how deep blue beat Kasparov in a match around 1996.  Since then, I was under the impression that matches between great human players and computers have all been draws.  Chess games between very good opponents tend to be draws, even if one opponent is better than another, because there is finite complexity to chess.  Computers get better at the game every year, but then human masters are getting stronger as time goes on as well.  We'll see that, as time passes, high level chess matches will end more and more in draws, whether human vs human or computer vs human.  Perhaps it will become necessary to play chess variants that add to the game complexity in the future.


WWorldWide
Whenever I use the computer to make moves in my games I always end up winning.Cool
maniac2008
wworldwide... cool... :)