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In our Sunday paper is Shelby Lyman on Chess in which there is always a problem for the beginner. My opinion of a beginner must not be the same as his, because some of those problems seem difficult for what I consider to be a beginner. In your opinion, when does a beginner graduate from being a beginner?
White will always be the beginner
How do you define a beginner?
What do they graduate to?
That's not fair answering my question with a question, but I always thought of a beginner as someone who has just learned the laws, moves of the chessmen and still struggling with what to do next, such as, push a pawn or what? But it seems liie a fine line as to when a person is not any longer a beginner.
I like your humor.
There's a difference between being a beginner and simply being quite bad at chess. There's also a difference between the average chess player and someone who calls his playing strength "average"
And a difference between considering youself a strong player and being a strong player
I agree with what you wrote, but that does not answer my question. Yes, one may not be a beginner, but a very weak player, but somewhere there must be a point where he/she is not considered a beginner. Such as, learning to drive. We usually think once a person graduates from a driving permit by passing the final driving test and receiving a driver's license he is considered a driver. Not a stockcar race driver, but a driver no less.
Yes, isn't it true. I remember a man that joined a small chess group I was in once. He came in telling how he was once in a chess tourament. As it turned out he was in a neighborhood type tournament. He didn't last long in the group.
Then there was a man I met in a library as I sat a chessboard waiting for anyone that would play. He asked if I was waiting on anyone, and I said no and asked him if he played. He only answered, "Some." He beat me all four games. I held my own until the endgames. He was much better in the endgames. His some proved to be devastrating to me.
Yes, this idea of a driver's license vs. a chess "license" has been keeping me awake as well. I don't know yet how to compare the two.
I'd say your a beginner until you win at least three times against an opponent of 1800 or better by executinging and caring out a plan and not by luck.
Which I haven't managed to do even once yet.
Wow, that is very stringent. Isn't that sort of saying one isn't a driver until he/she has driven through New York City during the rush-hour? If that be the case, many chess players are hopelessly beginners.
I know, I asked for your opinion, and that is your opinion. I guess I passed, because I once beat a 2000 by very determined planning and execution. I could beat him about 1 out of nine times. I have no rating.
If drivers are undecided like chess players, they'd cause an accident at every second junction
I'd say you're a beginner until you know some basic principles of each phase of the game, and you're familiar with and utilize in play common tactical motives.
I had one this weekend! Ended up in a ditch.
1. Car to J9??
My car is supposed to move like a rook and it ended up more like a knight.
Now we are getting somewhere. Yes, one can know these things and not ever become a strong player, yet is beyond the beings a beginner. Back to relating this to driving. One can know how to maneuver a curve, drive on ice, parallel park, etc., yet not be able to drive a truck on the ice-highway in Alaska.
Defining a when a beginner creases being a beginner in many cases is as difficult as defining when one enters the middle game. No two games are ever exactly alike.
I can relate to that!
Yes, something like that, dropping pieces left and right. Rd4?? Nxd4 which leaves some indentation to the side of the rook
Once you become a C class player, i think its safe to say youre no longer a beginner.
What's a class C player?
This would explain why someone writes that being a beginner help is needed, yet when checking the person's rating it is in this range. To me this is not at beginner. Not a strong player, yes, but not a beginner. I suppose the higher one's rating is the beginner level raises with his/her rating of a beginner. I wonder, do GMs look at C-players as beginners?
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