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Captainbob767
jesterville wrote:

Polar_Bear wrote:

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I have quite opposite opinion. I think that fair chessplayer has nothing to hide and everybody has the right to know his/her opponent. I expect that anonymous user at least introduces himself/herself privately - it should go without saying when game or tournament starts, but it rarely happens and i find this silent behaviour extremely impolite.

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Polar_Bear,

Your logic is flawed. Because someone shows all the information on his/her profile, this does not indicate that the information is true. When we register, there is no need to send any confirmation documentation...and thus, no information provided here can be assumed to be correct.

Most of us are only here to play chess. And even if we socialize, there is no need to know anyone's real name or other personal information.

I strongly believe that the risks out-way the benefits in providing one's personal information. 


I think if you go back an reread my original post, I was not referring to posting your blood type, mailing address, where you work, how many times you have been married, etc,.,,etc.... It was simply wondering why some of the members won't even post what section of which country they are from. You would have to be pretty high on the paranoia scale in my opinion, to worry about stating that you were from Boston, or LA, or Dallas, thinking that some pedophile or terrorist is going to track you down with that wealth of information........   By the way, I have noticed that this lack of ID seems to occur mostly in my country ( the US) .....  The reason for my post, is that I have belonged to numerous forums in the last decade, and this is the first one I have encountered where the members seem to be so frightened of giving even the smallest bit of information about themselves.  

slvnfernando

For me the only thing that catches my eye is the rating. But I am not sure whether that could be authentic or not on websites!

JesusFreakz

Identity theft

876543Z1

well captainbob767 in my case captainparanoia has an influence, without generalising well yes i do ive noticed the girls on the site seem to open up much more than the boys, photos and personal info etc, not sure why, maybe some wish to socialize, being an intp male such activities are beyond me

john boy

>:)

Kernicterus

I'm quite the opposite of Reb on this...  I would prefer silly false information to nothing at all.  I'm here mostly to be entertained so...the more, the better.  I think perhaps it's different at a higher level where things are a bit more official...the 2000+ club.

Actually, just any avatar would do for me.  I don't like blank pictures.  I don't need info...I'd just like to see some personality :)

TheGrobe

Just no animals.  At least not those that still have heads.

Atos

Well, when you see a person in the street they also don't have all their personal info written on their foreheads do they ? If you get to know them better and they feel that there is a reason / it is safe to tell you more about themselves they probably will.

Polar_Bear

Anyway, correspondence players in the past knew real names and postal adresses each other and nobody felt threatened. If people are really scared to reveal their real names because of internet identity theft and personal snoopers, then we could ask Erik to hide them for non-member visitors and bots (except caught cheaters, they should be exposed publicly).

Just a correction of Schachgeek's statement: The "harassed" member (mentioned above as professor) was for more than 99.999% certain cheater. Arguments for it were sound and serious, the discussion started in polite way. People (including myself) got angry, when he started arguing, because it came out he is also arrogant liar. He decided to close his account, because he knew it was only a matter of time his account would be closed anyway: he had been already reported and IMHO the evidence was overwhelming. Maybe he exchanged letters with the staff and they recommended him to close his account to avoid shame being exposed as confirmed cheater. But what really worries me, there are guys, who defend him: i ask myself whether they are his fellow-cheaters or just naive numbskulls?

Polar_Bear
Karl_ wrote:

Maybe in the Czech Republic you don't have to worry about identity theft, I don't know.  But here in the States we do have to worry about that.

 


I agree, there should be some form of protection, e.g. non-member visitors and web spiders shouldn't be allowed to read profiles. But i repeat, anonymity is impolite in human chess, it helps cheaters to avoid shame and come back multiple times.

Atos
Polar_Bear wrote:
Karl_ wrote:

Maybe in the Czech Republic you don't have to worry about identity theft, I don't know.  But here in the States we do have to worry about that.

 


I agree, there should be some form of protection, e.g. non-member visitors and web spiders shouldn't be allowed to read profiles. But i repeat, anonymity is impolite in human chess, it helps cheaters to avoid shame and come back multiple times.


First, there are no non-member visitors on this site, you probably mean non-premium members. However, even someone who is not a member at all can view for example these posts on the net. Who would the information be shown to then ? If non-premium members could not view your profile then surely you couldn't view theirs too, so again you would be playing strangers.

Of course, you could elect to play premium members only. As it is, of course you are not obliged to play people who don't put their name in their profile. Since the names are not being verified in any way there is no way you can know that they are authentic though, along with the other info. (I guess that those people who put the photos of famous actresses in their profile are probably not them.) It may also be noted that some of the cheaters, including the person you mentioned, did give their info in their profile.

Polar_Bear

No, i meant visitors who aren't logged in. In order to look other profiles, you should have created your own and be already logged in.

TheGrobe
tonydal wrote:
Schachgeek wrote:

If you have not been a victim of identify theft yet, hang on because it's going to happen. Your bank account looted. Your credit cards hacked, or you'll find something that does not belong to you on your credit report and it will take you years to get rid of it.


Jeez Schachgeek, that was about as uplifting as listening to 5 Simon & Garfunkel albums in a row.  Now I'm just gonna go crawl off and die somewhere...


You won't be needing your identity then, right? 

TheGrobe
Polar_Bear wrote:
Karl_ wrote:

Maybe in the Czech Republic you don't have to worry about identity theft, I don't know.  But here in the States we do have to worry about that.

 


I agree, there should be some form of protection, e.g. non-member visitors and web spiders shouldn't be allowed to read profiles. But i repeat, anonymity is impolite in human chess, it helps cheaters to avoid shame and come back multiple times.


I struggle to understand how you've got this so turned on it's head.

Anonymity is my right, visibility into other users' true identities is not yours.

Atos
TheGrobe wrote:
Polar_Bear wrote:
Karl_ wrote:

Maybe in the Czech Republic you don't have to worry about identity theft, I don't know.  But here in the States we do have to worry about that.

 


I agree, there should be some form of protection, e.g. non-member visitors and web spiders shouldn't be allowed to read profiles. But i repeat, anonymity is impolite in human chess, it helps cheaters to avoid shame and come back multiple times.


I struggle to understand how you've got this so turned on it's head.

Anonymity is my right, visibility into other users' true identities is not yours.


TheGrobe is not really your name then ?

TheGrobe
Atos wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:
Polar_Bear wrote:
Karl_ wrote:

Maybe in the Czech Republic you don't have to worry about identity theft, I don't know.  But here in the States we do have to worry about that.

 


I agree, there should be some form of protection, e.g. non-member visitors and web spiders shouldn't be allowed to read profiles. But i repeat, anonymity is impolite in human chess, it helps cheaters to avoid shame and come back multiple times.


I struggle to understand how you've got this so turned on it's head.

Anonymity is my right, visibility into other users' true identities is not yours.


TheGrobe is not really your name then ?


It's what I am, not who I am. 

TheGrobe

Wrong forum -- please take it to the cheating discussion group where it's already been beaten to death.

TheGrobe

Just because it's been beaten to death does't mean it can't continue to be beaten like the proverbial horse.

TheGrobe

I agree.  If you think so as well then why do you continue to flog it?

RedSoxpawn

dog food!!! YUM

jerry2468

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