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TheGrobe

"If trees screamed, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down?  We might, if they screamed all the time and for no good reason." - Jack Handey

Teary_Oberon

*om nom nom* Now what were we talking about again? Something to do with delicious pies? >_>

MugglesMan

How infinite?

Teary_Oberon
MugglesMan wrote:

How infinite?


Really infinite

HessianWarrior

Okay what happened to all the Monkeys trying to prove the mathematical Chess theories? I guess they're eating Banana Pie and enjoying the vacation from infinity.

MugglesMan

Teary_Oberon wrote:

Furthermore, there is no such thing as a perfectly precise calculation of a limit--that violates the entire concept of the term. A limit is a value which a function trends towards until it is infinitely close, but never quite reaches, hence the infinity part, i.e., the function gets infinitesimally close. You can arbitrarily just 'give up' and pick a practical number yes, but that doesn't take away the infinity part of it.


In calculus, a limit is a real number.  It is precise.

IOliveira
MugglesMan wrote:

Furthermore, there is no such thing as a perfectly precise calculation of a limit--that violates the entire concept of the term. A limit is a value which a function trends towards until it is infinitely close, but never quite reaches, hence the infinity part, i.e., the function gets infinitesimally close. You can arbitrarily just 'give up' and pick a practical number yes, but that doesn't take away the infinity part of it.


In calculus, a limit is a real number.  It is precise.


If they weren't real numbers people wouldn't be able to touch the wall.

TheGrobe
HessianWarrior wrote:

Okay what happened to all the Monkeys trying to prove the mathematical Chess theories? I guess they're eating Banana Pie and enjoying the vacation from infinity.


Someone threw a banana into the mix....

HessianWarrior

There isn't a monkey on earth that can't stop what he is doing to shove a banana in his mouth.

George1st
RainbowRising wrote:

None of those are funny - quit wasting my time!lol


When, in your case, time is irrelevent! I think you would agree that you have nothing to waste?

Hoping things improve.

Yours Sincerely,

George1st

nxavar
Frankdawg wrote:

An infinate number of monkeys given an infinate amount of time could create an infinate amount of things.

I estimate it would take 10,000,000 monkeys roughly 10,000 years to create the immortal game in chess.

However it would probably take 100,000,000,000,000 monkeys 1,000,000 years to creat a light saber


Infinity takes all thinks to positive/negative perfection, a well-known and well-established mathematical point.

nxavar
ivandh wrote:

I wonder, Teary, do you also object to the use of pi?

 


 The actual pi used in practical mathematical operations is just an approximation of the "real" pi with some 10^-x accuracy, ie rounded to the xth decimal digit.

heinzie
nxavar wrote:

 Maybe monkeys could play bullet?


Some online test accounts have already been set up. Some thirty years ago, they also tried to teach one very big gorilla to play chess. His name was Garry. He became world champion.

Wou_Rem
heinzie wrote:
nxavar wrote:

 Maybe monkeys could play bullet?


Some online test accounts have already been set up. Some thirty years ago, they also tried to teach one very big gorilla to play chess. His name was Garry. He became world champion.


Is that like one of those lifestyle stories?

azazel0111
George1st wrote:
waffllemaster wrote:

In fact, they would create the immortal game infinite number of times too.


Exactly what and idiot would say. Funny how people may be better than others in a particular area and slag at others by name calling as though they were bullied all their lives for being nerds.

You may not no this waffle....... but chess is just a game. Try achieving a similar level in every other field known.

Your self proclaimed awareness skill level, is no more than a child playing a game who also believes that everyone are monkeys (as you describe), because they can't beat him/her in Playsation.

You would actually be funny if you weren't so obviously pathetic.

Yours sincerely,

George1st 


Said perfect. In fact, there are no monkeys. there are only "winning" & "losing" players. And you can easily change your title to oposite

chessvictor888
nxavar wrote:
nxavar wrote:
Candypants wrote:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS INFINITY! Not even in your imagination. I dont know why we have such a stupid word.

Einstein once said: "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."

But he was WRONG! (i know the quote is probably a joke) Give me a proof that anything is infinite. 


 Infinity is mostly a craft of imagination. It cannot be defined, it's used in place of "the highest number possible". Concerning the original argument, an infinite amount of monkeys would require that the whole world be filled with monkey, ie nothing but monkeys in the world, not even earth and sun. In this case a chessboard wouldn't be able to fit in or at least there wouldn't be space above the chessboard so that the pieces could be accessed and moved. So an infinite amount of monkeys couldn't play chess at all.


 Can anyone find the fallacy in this argument?


There could be an infnite amount of space!

HessianWarrior

Okay this is about an infinite amount of monkeys playing chess to achieve the perfect game of chess and they have an infinite amount of time to do it. An infinite amount of monkeys would take up the entire amount of infinite space. Then there would be infinity divided by 2 of chess boards to accommodate all the games being played. Then you have infinity divided by say 6 for the judges required to determine if any of the games are the perfect game. The end result is infinity is not large enough accommodate such a feat if the monkeys already hog up infinity in the first place.

Oh yeah, what about all the Porta Potties required for this event and the trucks and drivers to service an infinite amount of dung?

blake78613
HessianWarrior wrote:

Okay this is about an infinite amount of monkeys playing chess to achieve the perfect game of chess and they have an infinite amount of time to do it. An infinite amount of monkeys would take up the entire amount of infinite space. Then there would be infinity divided by 2 of chess boards to accommodate all the games being played. Then you have infinity divided by say 6 for the judges required to determine if any of the games are the perfect game. The end result is infinity is not large enough accommodate such a feat if the monkeys already hog up infinity in the first place.

Oh yeah, what about all the Porta Potties required for this event and the trucks and drivers to service an infinite amount of dung?


Infinity is not a number and you can not perform mathematical operations on infinity.  I refer you to Hilbert's paradox of the grand hotel:

 

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel

HessianWarrior

I know you can't preform mathematical calculations on infinity, I was trying to make this whole idea of "Infinite Monkeys" look ridiculous.

ivandh

Of course it's ridiculous. We are talking about an infinite number of monkeys playing chess.