Is blitz chess good for beginners?

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ChristopherYoo
pawnwhacker wrote:

"The proof is in the pudding..."

Not you, of course, but most anyone can make up a bullsheet story to substantiate their dopey opinion.

I'm not going to mention my son's name, but his USCF rating history is public record.  He entered the top 10 for his age recently.  It's not difficult to figure out who he is.  The most surprising thing about his progress is that unlike most of the high rated kids his age, he hasn't been playing since he was a toddler.  He learned how to move the pieces one year and one month ago.

He was playing blitz before he played in his first tournament (November of last year) and has probably watched most of chessnetwork's bullet videos.  However, he balances that with plenty of long games (at clubs and tournaments and not online) as well as lots of tactical puzzles here, at chesskid.com, and with CT-Art, as well as in puzzle books.  He's memorized only two lines of one opening because at this stage it's all about tactics.  Soon though he'll probably need to start working on openings.

shell_knight
yyoochess wrote:
pawnwhacker wrote:

"The proof is in the pudding..."

Not you, of course, but most anyone can make up a bullsheet story to substantiate their dopey opinion.

I'm not going to mention my son's name, but his USCF rating history is public record.  He entered the top 10 for his age recently.  It's not difficult to figure out who he is.  The most surprising thing about his progress is that unlike most of the high rated kids his age, he hasn't been playing since he was a toddler.  He learned how to move the pieces one year and one month ago.

He was playing blitz before he played in his first tournament (November of last year) and has probably watched most of chessnetwork's bullet videos.  However, he balances that with plenty of long games (at clubs and tournaments and not online) as well as lots of tactical puzzles here, at chesskid.com, and with CT-Art, as well as in puzzle books.  He's memorized only two lines of one opening because at this stage it's all about tactics.  Soon though he'll probably need to start working on openings.

Kids like that will improve no matter what really... as long as they keep playing.

But just imagine how much better he'd be if he trained the "right" way Wink

ChristopherYoo

To paraphrase an old song, if what we're doing is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

Spanish_Bishop

No. If you are looking to improve. Since blitz required fast calculations and good understanding of certain openings. 10 mins is like bullet game for me.

kiloNewton

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pawnwhacker

Just as blitz is good for a chess beginner, so is grand slalom for a beginning skiier:

Poldi_der_Drache

For me standard time works better and I also find it more interesting and fun to look deeper into postions. Except if I just want to relax then I play blitz or even bullet.

Blitz is not needed to become a good player IMO you can do chess lessons and study games and openings you will see plenty of patterns.

To say that you don't need to think fast in a long game is balooney try to think slow in a slow game and your opponent will outcalculate you x10.

That being said I think perhaps some people can improve their game with blitz but we don't know what the factors behind it are, even GMs do not know the best way to learn chess, especially as each person is different.

pawnwhacker

Sounds like rationalization to me.

VLaurenT

I think two kinds of players can benefit from blitz :

- experienced players who are strong enough to notice the mistakes they made during a blitz game and can draw an immediate lesson from it in a re-usable way

- players with good memory (especially youngsters), who can pick patterns along the way, without any conscious effort

For other people, it's debatable if blitz helps or hinders their development.

PeterHyatt
Andre_Harding wrote:
I_am_Zod wrote:

GM Dru Zod

The highest form of chess is, in fact, 5/0 Blitz chess.

While many (if not most) mediocre players will pretend that untimed or "slow" chess is a superior form, 5/0 Blitz chess requires a player to be supremely confident and intelligent.

Moves must be made in a timely manner as there is only a limited amount of time.  However, there is sufficient time to make moves and to complete games.

As one develops as a chess player, he or she will notice that those who dislike Blitz chess are not very good at Blitz chess.  It is natural for individuals to hate what they are not good at. 

There are supposed 2100+ level conventional chess players who cannot think fast enough to play Blitz chess.  Sometimes it is due to their age or some physical or mental condition, but most of the time it is because they have not reached the level of skill and chess acumen to be proficient and formidable Blitz chess players. 

5/0 Blitz chess is the highest form of chess available on chess.com.  If you aspire to be a great chess player, then master 5/0 Blitz chess.  If you do not aspire to be a great chess player, then simply play "slow chess" or even untimed matches that allow imbeciles enough time to study a board and contemplate for days a single move.  Not only is that boring, it is plain stupidity and best reserved for those who lack any confidence in their chess abilities. 

 

Fascinating.  

General question:  Approximately how many rated Blitz games (5/0) until a reliable rating emerges?

Barry_Helafonte2

I was wondering the same thing if blitz chess helps or hurts your ability