is chess a sport?
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Apr 20, 2021
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#141
Sure, it is.
Apr 20, 2021
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#142
lfPatriotGames wrote:
tourIDchess10kp wrote:
How does chess not involve physical exertion
The rules of chess lay that out pretty clearly. The game is played by moving pieces on a board. But, the moves do not need to be physically made. They can be made virtually. With zero exertion. And obviously zero skill.
Accommodations have been made by the ADA as well as other governing bodies to ensure that people with no physical abilities to play chess can still play. So they can make their moves by proxy. Talk into a machine, relay their moves to someone else, etc.
There are probably a lot of games where this is also done. We've all had aunt Edna over for the holidays and played a board game where she could not move the pieces. So someone else did it for here. She didn't have to put forth any effort.
But in sports you cant do that. You can't tell someone else that you just hit a baseball 400 feet. You have to ACTUALLY hit it 400 feet. You cant talk into a machine and say you'd like to hit a golf ball 300 yards. You have to ACTUALLY do that yourself.
Because chess is a game, and not a sport, proxy is allowed. The physical skill demands of sport do not allow someone to simply say what the results should be. The results have to actually be carried out by the participant.
No my butt hurts when I play chess for hours
Apr 20, 2021
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#143
MagicalScarecrow wrote:
depends on your definition of sport.
the dictionary definition is "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment," which chess doesn't fit into
It does lol
Chestnut_22 wrote:
There is physical skill in snooker and darts, cueing the ball and throwing darts accurately requires physical skill not just mental.
Think the term e-sports has muddied the definition and confused people into thinking that gamers are sports people.
Putting it that way, I for sure think sportsman should only refer to physical sports. A chess player can be a games person/game master or something similar but not a sportsman. Even though only a few days ago I thought anything with competition is a sport.
tourIDchess10kp wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
tourIDchess10kp wrote:
How does chess not involve physical exertion
The rules of chess lay that out pretty clearly. The game is played by moving pieces on a board. But, the moves do not need to be physically made. They can be made virtually. With zero exertion. And obviously zero skill.
Accommodations have been made by the ADA as well as other governing bodies to ensure that people with no physical abilities to play chess can still play. So they can make their moves by proxy. Talk into a machine, relay their moves to someone else, etc.
There are probably a lot of games where this is also done. We've all had aunt Edna over for the holidays and played a board game where she could not move the pieces. So someone else did it for here. She didn't have to put forth any effort.
But in sports you cant do that. You can't tell someone else that you just hit a baseball 400 feet. You have to ACTUALLY hit it 400 feet. You cant talk into a machine and say you'd like to hit a golf ball 300 yards. You have to ACTUALLY do that yourself.
Because chess is a game, and not a sport, proxy is allowed. The physical skill demands of sport do not allow someone to simply say what the results should be. The results have to actually be carried out by the participant.
No my butt hurts when I play chess for hours
I don't know what to say. I guess you are playing the wrong "game".
Apr 20, 2021
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#146
lfPatriotGames wrote:
tourIDchess10kp wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
tourIDchess10kp wrote:
How does chess not involve physical exertion
The rules of chess lay that out pretty clearly. The game is played by moving pieces on a board. But, the moves do not need to be physically made. They can be made virtually. With zero exertion. And obviously zero skill.
Accommodations have been made by the ADA as well as other governing bodies to ensure that people with no physical abilities to play chess can still play. So they can make their moves by proxy. Talk into a machine, relay their moves to someone else, etc.
There are probably a lot of games where this is also done. We've all had aunt Edna over for the holidays and played a board game where she could not move the pieces. So someone else did it for here. She didn't have to put forth any effort.
But in sports you cant do that. You can't tell someone else that you just hit a baseball 400 feet. You have to ACTUALLY hit it 400 feet. You cant talk into a machine and say you'd like to hit a golf ball 300 yards. You have to ACTUALLY do that yourself.
Because chess is a game, and not a sport, proxy is allowed. The physical skill demands of sport do not allow someone to simply say what the results should be. The results have to actually be carried out by the participant.
No my butt hurts when I play chess for hours
I don't know what to say. I guess you are playing the wrong "game".
I was referring to OTB chess.
Apr 21, 2021
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#147
To IPatriotGames I am a arm amputee who are you to tell me that I need a proxy or a machine to play chess
chessnutswe2 wrote:
To IPatriotGames I am a arm amputee who are you to tell me that I need a proxy or a machine to play chess
I'm speaking in general terms. It applies to everyone. If someone has no arms or legs, the rules of chess allow for them to still play. If for any reason (amputee being just one) they cannot physically make the move, they are allowed to move by proxy. There could be other reasons. It could neurological. Perhaps someone has little or no control over their limbs. It doesn't matter the reason. The point is in the game of chess the potentially physical parts are not relevant, people are allowed to ignore them 100%. Someone else may do those things for them.
But in sports participation by proxy is not allowed. A bowler is not allowed to sit on the sidelines (or even stand up behind the line) and simply tell someone where the ball goes. He has to actually, physically, do it himself.
People have come up with dozens of reasons chess is not a sport. Some good, some really good. This is just another reason. Games (like chess) usually allow participation by proxy. Not always, but usually. Sports on the other hand, never allow it.
Apr 21, 2021
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#149
One more time how are you I don't need a proxy or a TAB tell me how to move my men
Well I suppose you are right thank you for teaching me something new!
May 13, 2021
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#151
chessnutswe2 wrote:
To IPatriotGames I am a arm amputee who are you to tell me that I need a proxy or a machine to play chess
I'm speaking in general terms. It applies to everyone. If someone has no arms or legs, the rules of chess allow for them to still play. If for any reason (amputee being just one) they cannot physically make the move, they are allowed to move by proxy. There could be other reasons. It could neurological. Perhaps someone has little or no control over their limbs. It doesn't matter the reason. The point is in the game of chess the potentially physical parts are not relevant, people are allowed to ignore them 100%. Someone else may do those things for them.
But in sports participation by proxy is not allowed. A bowler is not allowed to sit on the sidelines (or even stand up behind the line) and simply tell someone where the ball goes. He has to actually, physically, do it himself.
People have come up with dozens of reasons chess is not a sport. Some good, some really good. This is just another reason. Games (like chess) usually allow participation by proxy. Not always, but usually. Sports on the other hand, never allow it. you have ever hear of back players?
samesardine54 wrote:
simple answer no chess is not a sport
Just because it's simple doesn't mean everyone can understand it. We assume that because chess is a board game, and not a sport, everyone should understand that. But we have different levels of simple. And different levels of understanding.
hey shut up
May 14, 2021
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#158
Yurinclez wrote:
if chess is a sport then othello, checker, rubik cube are also sports. hence, solving word or number puzzles is a sport. playing mincecraft and lego is also a sport. solving detective riddles is also a sport.... in short, any board, paper, textual, visual, or audio game that requires you to use logic to create strategy and build tactic to win should also be considered a sport
WEll, chess has mores cultural history and stuff
C9_Narwhal wrote:
Yurinclez wrote:
if chess is a sport then othello, checker, rubik cube are also sports. hence, solving word or number puzzles is a sport. playing mincecraft and lego is also a sport. solving detective riddles is also a sport.... in short, any board, paper, textual, visual, or audio game that requires you to use logic to create strategy and build tactic to win should also be considered a sport
WEll, chess has mores cultural history and stuff
Chess has some cultural history. It also has stuff. It has stuff like wooden pieces. It has a clock, sometimes. It has other stuff too, like a board. But often stuff isn't what makes something a sport. So even though chess, like watching the opera, has both stuff and cultural history, neither cultural history nor stuff are used to determine if something is a sport.