Is chess a sport? Ending the debate

that was in reference to the fact that requirements of physical fitness or athletic training disqualifies "the endurance of sitting in a chair" or "physically moving the chess pieces" its not a personal perspective or personal argument its an objective consensus. Are you done with the mind f*cking? doubtful seems you enjoy running in circles probably lack of anything better to do. I was waiting for some actual legitimate points, to argue that chess is a sport. One or two points could be brought up you have yet to bring them up though

From mere "physical exerting component" in post 243 changed after physical components of chess pointed out to

"advanced athletic and fitness prowess" in post 248 changed after physical endurance for long chess match and physical exertion to move pieces

to now "elite physical training" in post 254 changed after many play without elite training to

"not my own personal argument" in the same post 254.

Which of these many changed points is the one you didn't change?

I only ask because you keep changing them one by one after each is refuted so I would like for you to nail down exactly what is your argument if you indeed have one.

physical exerting component in the 243 post was assumed to be understood as advanced athleticand phyiscal prowess which is annunciated in 248   which is the exact equivelant to elite physical training in 254.

So once again since the first post i havent changed the argument, chess is not a sport. Neither is poker or starcraft 2. now that all the terms are clearly defined

My neighbor will be extremely disappointed to learn baseball is not a sport because his children who play it have neither received "elite" training from their little league coach nor attained any "advanced" level of athletic or fitness prowess and yet they still excel in the game by beating all the teams they play. However, I have a feeling Tim Tebow won't do much tossing and turning tonight wrestling with his conscience over whether he should return the $100,000 the Mets minor league team paid him to play a game instead of a sport.

Or could the gentleman have been trolling when he suggested those requirements for an activity to be deemed a sport?

you seem to genuinely be failing to comprehend, which i interpreted as trolling. Lets see if its genuine.

To play a sport doesnt require advanced fitness/training to play it. A 400 obese person can shoot a basketball. But it requires it to EXCELL. As i have said since the first post. If you dont believe me reread them all again i never said otherwise. Go ahead post all my posts in quotes and read them carefully. I never said its not a sport if your not fit. I said its not a sport if it doesnt require physical training to excell. and at the top level it obviously will very elite physical training to become the best.

understand the point? A 1000 rated chess player can play chess, but he doesnt have the tactical practice to excell.. understand? But no physical training is required to excell at chess so its not a sport.

Now i will add additional points not previously mentined to help supplement and flesh out the original argument of the concept of a sport since there is still a lack of understanding on your end..

to be qualified as a sport the game in question should require total body muscular activity, at times even explosive activity of the muscles, during partaking in the said sport. So you might not be fit or trained but its a sport due to the physical requirements of the game to play it. This doesn't contradict or change the previous argument in any way, just further annunciating it. 

Thanks for the effort but I'm not sure this additional point fits,

"to be qualified as a sport the game in question should

require total body muscular activity."

The IWBF would be crestfallen to learn wheelchair basketball no longer qualifies as a sport because those players who are paralyzed below the waist do not fulfill the requirement of muscular activity in that part of their body during partaking of the sport.

So surely total body muscular activity during partaking of the said sport must not be a requirement.

actually the IWBF is included as a sport and falls perfectly into the said definition. Even though you just showed your true colors of trolling. But regardless it didnt work. Why is it still a sport? Because it is total muscular activity for THIER particular partially disabled bodies.

Therefore because of the total muscular exertion requirement to play wheelchair basketball, (utilizing all the muscles that thier disabled  bodies are capable of). Its 100 percent a sport. Thank you for further proving the point. And chess is 100 percent not a sport and never will be

Every once in a while I return here in hopes of seeing some progress. lol And to reaffirm that chess is not a sport!  I have a theory. Those lobbying for chess as a sport are probably not athletic and need to feel chess is a sport to satisfy their own dreams of playing a sport. By some of these definitions I'm reading here you could place Opera as a sport. lol  They do train their vocal cords ;) Let's not forget hot dog eating. smiles..

well how isnt he a troll hes clearly intelligent enough to realize that disabled people in a wheel chair are utilizing all the muscles thier bodies are capable of. But he wants to intentionally misintrepret and troll by arguing that because its not literally "all the muscles" because they cant use thier legs it doesnt make it a sport. Hes intentioanlly losing the forest for the trees just to argue not to genuinely contribute to the spirit of the discussion. Definition of a troll

Yes chess is not a sport neither is poker, starcraft 2 or call of duty. I don't understand why thats a bad thing for anyone to admit these games are still highly engaging, mentally stimulating, some like chess have high learning curves and rich histories, nothing to be ashamed of. So who cares that its not a sport, right?

To the contrary, you showed your true colors. I didn't troll at all. I simply suggested your point was incorrect and once again you changed it in an attempt to save face, albeit again unsuccessfully.

Don't attack me for pointing out the weakness of your argument, but use that energy to strengthen your argument.

For example, instead of continuing to just spout whatever nonsense you think you can get away with, changing it when it's pointed out it's not correct and then attacking the one who showed you why it was incorrect as you change it, spend that same time just coming up with a correct argument in the first place.

You could review my original post where I provided a valid sound deductive argument concluding Chess is a sport. You'll see the conclusion is true and follows logically from true premises with each supported by credible evidence.

Or you could use an appeal to authority (ethos) such as pointing out that the International Olympic Committee recognizes chess as a sport with FIDE a member of the ARISF which is the Association of International Olympic Committee Recognised International Sports Federations.

Now whose position on the matter should someone believe? The organization that is an actual internationally recognized authority on sports or the forum user changing his argument each time it is refuted while hurling insults, false accusations and name calling (troll)?

aj is the only one making sense of it all.  Bye for now. Well expressed aj ;)

This isnt a philosophical debate that requires so much hyperfocusing on the LITERAL meaning of everything. The spirit of the discussion is what is a sport and you keep nitpicking and focusing on trivialities just to be quarrelsome. Type up all the essays you want but you are trolling and it doesn't change just because you type with a smooth vernacular

A quick google reveals the international olympic committe does not view chess as a sport. Anything else?

Yes I already established chess is a sport in my original post. That hasn't changed despite your hyperfocused attempts to nitpick at what constitutes physical components, physical requirements, attaining advanced fitness to excel, must get elite training  and all the other trivialities of your focus to be quarrelsome and then project those motivations on to me.

repost your original post here to be subjected to debunking

If all it takes is "a quick google" for such a revelation, please cite your credible source.

What I mean is when you ask people about it. Any source about definitions indicates chess is not a sport. You can ask your neighbor, your parents, your coworkers, the dictionary, wikipedia, most chessplayers, athletes, or just people in general. As I said, where I see sport defined there is a physical ability element to it, which chess doesn't have. I dont care who calls chess a sport or a game, it makes no difference to me. People can call daydreaming a sport if they want, but it wont change the definition that almost all of us use. Which is why I said it doesnt matter, some peoples belief will always trump the actual definition.

https://www.olympic.org/sports

I'm not going to do your thinking for you and your research for you.

You can't unsport a sport.