Is chess a sport? Ending the debate

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aj415

True it doesnt matter, but its not a sport

DrSpudnik

If it's a sport, am I an athlete?

aj415
DrSpudnik wrote:

If it's a sport, am I an athlete?

Fatlete*

aj415

jk ;)

learningthemoves

Yes, lol. For those who may have wondered why I was able to successfully show why chess is a sport, just  one of the many reasons is because the claims I made were supported by evidence whereas the opposing views provided no evidence as support for any of their claims.

BigKingBud
learningthemoves wrote:
BigKingBud wrote:

learningthemoves wrote:

 Picking up a chess piece and moving it to another square hardly counts as physical exertion.   lol   It doesn't exactly make you breathe hard.  

Mainly though, "the physical movement of the pieces" has no effect on 'the skill' of chess.  

Exactly. That doesn't reject the evidence that already supported the conclusion that chess is a sport. 

Actually, Chess cannot 'be a sport' according to the definition of the word "sport".  I am not sure how else to 'interpret' the word sport, except by it's literal definition.

learningthemoves

It was already shown to be sport by literal definition. At that point, people began to argue the literal definition wasn't as important as the meaning and then when that was refuted, they started creating new definitions, none of which are from any credible source.

DrSpudnik
aj415 wrote:

jk ;)

Laughing

JeffGreen333
learningthemoves wrote:

Yes, the pawns and pieces are physically exerted from one square to another, so whether your intention or not, you just affirmed chess is a sport.

Pawns and pieces are not human beings.   So, even if they make "contact" with each other, that does not qualify it as a contact sport.  If you mean that picking up the pieces is "physical exertion", give me a break.   A cat jumping on the board could move a chess piece.  Is the cat playing sports or just doing what cats normally do?   Your argument is flimsy and totally ridiculous.  

JeffGreen333
learningthemoves wrote:

Yes, lol. For those who may have wondered why I was able to successfully show why chess is a sport, just  one of the many reasons is because the claims I made were supported by evidence whereas the opposing views provided no evidence as support for any of their claims.

If you are so delusional to think that you won the debate, you really need psychological help.   You got clobbered.   

tiredofjapan

It is correct to say that there are many definitions of sport, but I think it is incorrect to say that they are all equally good.  If all definitions for a word were taken to be equally valid, then language would lose its meaning in relativity.  From Google:

sport
spôrt/
noun
noun: sport; plural noun: sports
  1. 1.
    an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
Further definitions irrelevant to the discussion.  I think this captures the essence of what a sport should be.  Clearly there are athletics that require brain power, but the primary arena in which sport occurs is physical skills and exertions. 
usernaym

How about correspondence chess?! Is it a sport? Are correspondence chess players athletes?

JeffGreen333
learningthemoves wrote:

It was already shown to be sport by literal definition. At that point, people began to argue the literal definition wasn't as important as the meaning and then when that was refuted, they started creating new definitions, none of which are from any credible source.

You are misinterpreting the definition of sport.  Moving a chess piece is NOT physical exertion, in any way, shape or form.   A newborn baby can move a chess piece.  A strong breeze can move a chess piece.   A cat can move a chess piece.  Are any of them playing sports?   Of course not.  

JeffGreen333
usernaym wrote:

How about correspondence chess?! Is it a sport? Are correspondence chess players athletes?

Exactly.  I don't even have to get out of bed to play correspondence chess.   lol   He's just clinging to the dictionary definition, because that's his only loophole.  It's totally absurd.   Worse yet, he is convinced that he won the debate.   He really needs to see a shrink.  

learningthemoves

Jeff Green, if you spent a fraction of the time gathering evidence to support your claims that you do name calling and saying "did not, did too!" you could potentially learn to construct a valid argument. Until that day comes you'll have to settle for pandering to your id. At this point, I'd settle for seeing at least an effort at a syllogism.

learningthemoves

The Google index is not a credible source.

learningthemoves

Jeff, that's a false analogy and non sequitur. Your conclusion doesn't follow your premise. You could as easily insert basketball and say strong winds could blow it, a baby could roll it or a cat could push it with its paw and then ask if any of these are playing the sport and say no as well. The basketball is merely part of the equipment required to play the sport of basketball just like the chess pieces are merely part of the equipment required to play the sport of chess.

jhernadi

My understanding is that top level chess players maintain good endurance.

tiredofjapan

I see nothing in Merriam Webster to contradict google.  All definitions related to the relevant usage of sport in this thread point to activities whose action primarily happens in the physical world, vice chess in which the board is a vessel to keep track of action which happens primarily in the imagination of its participants. 

jhernadi

Bobby Fischer was a helluva bowler.