Is chess a sport? Ending the debate

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learningthemoves wrote:

I apologize if offering my sympathies to a potentially grieving pet owner offended you and I do not blame you for taking offense. I also thank you for your effort to defend sound logical thinking because it is a worthy ideal. 

To show you my sincere appreciation, I invite you to view the universe from several perspectives of your choosing at the following link and I hope you enjoy:

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Thanks. Bookmarked. Although the thought of giant worm kinda grossed me out.

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New debate topic:

Sport is a chess.

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KenGeneQ wrote:

New debate topic:

Sport is a chess.

I've been trying to tell people that all this time, but they just won't listen.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/are-sports-a-form-of-chess

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the second post in that thread answers it. 

while so many announcers speak of a so-called chess game between managers/coaches, they are using strategies inherent to that particular game.

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As so many people here see Chess as a sport is written in stone, no one except a few (thanks for the reference to post 2, he is so right with his statement!) take the personal view into account. Playing chess not only to enjoy the life, studying it and biting dust while trying to get better and better is quite the opposite to people just facing a chess board from time to time. Quite easy who would treat Chess as a sport and who wouldn't.

 

The subordination of activities mainly on a physical level is fairly easy as well as the subordination of rather mind-based if you just try it (unfort. most chess player blindly wouldn't even try it) Getting it that competitive quite a few things can be seen as sport, beside the told computer game example and Go or even Chess. But even then many people outside that sporty Chess world wouldn't call it sport. And you thing the debate is over or it's written into stone? No it's not, the answer depends ...

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Chess...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

is.

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I suppose that by extension of time control it can be considered a race, but let's face it, winning on time isn't really winning

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Is chess a spork?

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No.

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blueemu wrote:

Is chess a spork?

 

No.

Got ourselves a positional player right here. Play the right opening and they can both get pretty similar (at least in terms of sharpness)

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chess is a sport since you can also get a scholarship and win money 

 

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i may have written this previously, so, forgive me if this is redundant.

i've seen this topic many times. in my view, the only people capable of giving an accurate assessment are those that regularly play in otb tournaments. in every topic devoted to this there are few posts from titled players. 

i'll give an example. i'm an avid golfer. my friends and i recognize that fitness is essential to our performance.

but, for those that go to a golf course to drink and have fun, they will not think of golf as a sport. i'm that way with chess. i don't play in any tournaments. i play co-workers and friends, and here, online.

i personally think anyone at the top of their game considers their endeavor a sport. because one is an expert backgammon player does not mean they exercise. same with bowlers. yes, there are those that are on the elite level, but, does their physical well being affect the outcome? I'd include poker players in the example. They are sitting at a table for hours (as otb players do), but, there is little physicality compared to performance in the games i've mentioned for amateurs.

just from being on this site, i have read stories of tournament preparation. for those players, i can understand how it can be viewed as sport.

but, most here want to think that playing against your buddies every week, and studying the game a little qualifies. it doesn't.

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AICzervik

That sums it up pretty well. Those who excel at their endevour are likely to consider that endevour a sport.  Balancing toothpicks or memorizing numbers is certainly considered a sport to those who are really good at those things. But I do disagree with one thing. Having extensive experience with golf course patrons,  I can safely say with a high degree of confidence, that many who go to a golf course to drink and have fun do indeed consider it a sport. I think the reason is twofold. First, they want to justify their laziness as activity. But secondly and probably more valid, even they realize that even in a drunken stupor it does take some sort of physical ability and co-ordination to finish nine holes competing with their friends to decide a winner.

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ifpatriotgames

justifying laziness does not qualify. i would agree that drunks out there playing recognize that they must have the capability to compete. 

but, i'm not talking about drunks in my post. rather, the recognition that those at high levels know that fitness is important. 

i think it is important that we can decifer between those doing things for fun, and those where it's important to them.

because some guy drinks while golfing actually means he does not consider it sport. he may think that, but that is what we have read here! getting wasted while performing a task seeems unreasonable to me.

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for example, i have played many games here under the influence. i like chess, but it's not my passion. 

i can't remember the last time i drank while playing golf. i'm sure there are fine chess players that must have conditions compatible to them when playing here. 

so, i think those you have encountered during a round of golf certainly view it as sport. in my opinion, though, those that go to a course to have fun and drink are not athletes. 

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turk505 wrote:

I suppose that by extension of time control it can be considered a race, but let's face it, winning on time isn't really winning

No.

 

LOL

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In the original post, I said that an argument over the definition of "sport" would be "absurd and almost impossible to reasonably conduct". Thank you all for proving my point. 

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DoctorKraken42 wrote:

In the original post, I said that an argument over the definition of "sport" would be "absurd and almost impossible to reasonably conduct". Thank you all for proving my point. 

The doctor is back!

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DoctorKraken42 wrote:

In the original post, I said that an argument over the definition of "sport" would be "absurd and almost impossible to reasonably conduct". Thank you all for proving my point. 

I can offer a functional definition:

It's just a game until somebody loses an eye. Then it's a SPORT.

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DoctorKraken42 wrote:

In the original post, I said that an argument over the definition of "sport" would be "absurd and almost impossible to reasonably conduct". Thank you all for proving my point. 

on this site, yes. while many of us know that the game is not a sport, you posted this topic on a chess site! of course you will have many claiming it is.