Is chess a sport? Ending the debate

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The definition of "a sport" here in this context is fairly simple...(the standard English popular noun version of the word "sport")

As far as 'the game' of chess, it can't be a sport, this is simple and easy to understand...

 

Ziggy is a total troll(here in this thread), If you need attention Ziggy, there are tons of goofy threads to mess around in, here(in this thread) at this point, you look like a fool.

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BigKingBud wrote:
VictorOchoa wrote:
Did you read the part where I never argued whether or not chess is actually a sport? Did you listen?

Yes, I even googled the terms and stuff that you are talking about... "holistic categorization"

If you "aren't arguing whether chess is a sport or not", you may be in the wrong thread...

haha. That made me look at the exact wording of the topic. Now I suppose someone will say everyone has a right to their own definition of not only sport, but also chess, ending, the, debate, and of course, is.

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BigKingBud wrote:

The definition of "a sport" here in this context is fairly simple...(the standard English popular noun version of the word "sport")

As far as 'the game' of chess, it can't be a sport, this is simple and easy to understand...

 

Ziggy is a total troll(here in this thread), If you need attention Ziggy, there are tons of goofy threads to mess around in, here(in this thread) at this point, you look like a fool.

You are a true ignorant blockhead.

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My response to Blockhead Bud.

I don’t want to waste any more time with this pig ignorant individual. By the same token I don’t see why the mentally defective town drunk should be continually prominent on this thread. So once posted, I will occasionally copy and paste this to caution newcomers of this truly obnoxious individual. This I take on as a service to the chess.com community.

 

He and many others argue that sport needs a physical component separate from the brain to be called ‘sport’. I am not unsympathetic to this viewpoint. However, I believe a significant minority, including myself argue that chess is within our definition of sport. Numerous dictionaries include definitions of sport that don’t include vigorous movement. Blockhead Bud will not accept that there are certain words in English usage that can mean different things to different people.

 

He continually misrepresents others points of view and accuses others of name calling while continually dishing it out himself. His contention that cerebral pursuits aren’t covered by dictionary definitions is a lie, and he knows it. At first, I admired his resoluteness, but after a while I realised I was dealing with a pig ignorant liar who is immune to reason.

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Do you even know what proof is BigKingBud? Do you know the difference between formal logic and science? Are you aware that your so-called "facts" are baseless, from any sort of respectable analysis?

 

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Ziggy_Zugzwang wrote:

The word 'sport' has a wide base of definitions. Not all words in language cover so many nuances. To say that I believe all words have an inherent subjectivity is to misrepresent my position. Misrepresentation is Bud's job, not yours...

 

Different people do have different understandings of words. The 'trunk' of a car in American English is a the 'boot' in British English for example. This no doubt may have caused misunderstanding in the past, even leading to humorous situations. With 'sport' rather than two separate cultural group having different meaning we have two philosophies. For the umpteenth time, 'sport' is one of those words capable of a wide group of meanings. Bud is a liar if he says that dictionaries don't include cerebral competition as a sport.

upon reflection, your explanation of how some words have different meanings in different countries makes sense. so, then, it might be understandable that people in countries outside the u.s. may somehow think chess can be regarded as sport.

but, i am not one of those. i am with bud's assessment that, if chess is a sport, then every other board game would also qualify.

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VictorOchoa wrote:

Do you even know what proof is BigKingBud?  

"Proof"(in this thread, on this subject) is outside images, copy and pasted descriptions, and even just a link, anything.  Bring some proof, that is all I have been saying.

  Anything I am 'claiming' has been proven over and over in this thread...

I have spent some time coming up with some VERY simplified images and descriptions explaining what the definition of sport is...

I sympathize with newcomers, because I too once did not understand why chess wasn't a sport.  "Sport" has a little bit of a tricky definition...
I'd say it took me about 5-10 minutes of reading over the definition(a while ago) and I finally 'got it'... 

So, this is all very simple, I am not here to show everyone the true enlightenment to the path of truth and all things amazing...

I am here explaining the definition of the word Sport, I am explaining it in a way that makes it easy to understand...

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Chess is a mental sport

 

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as much as I want to say it is I have to face the facts a definition of a sport is a an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment and chess is in no way physical

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MintWarrior wrote:

as much as I want to say it is I have to face the facts a definition of a sport is a an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment and chess is in no way physical

That makes a lot of sense. I too sometimes wish it was a sport because it's really, really difficult for me. I even think super fast speed chess is a sport because so much of it involves physical skill. People who are good at that are really fast. But as much as I want traditional chess to be a sport, it just cant be one because the physical part of it is no more taxing than simply breathing, blinking, or just plain old staying alive another day. But I'm sure someone out there thinks living another day is also a sport.

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My response to Blockhead Bud.

I don’t want to waste any more time with this pig ignorant individual. By the same token I don’t see why the mentally defective town drunk should be continually prominent on this thread. So once posted, I will occasionally copy and paste this to caution newcomers of this truly obnoxious individual. This I take on as a service to the chess.com community.

He and many others argue that sport needs a physical component separate from the brain to be called ‘sport’. I am not unsympathetic to this viewpoint. However I believe a significant minority, including myself argue that chess is within our definition of sport. Numerous dictionaries include definitions of sport that don’t include vigorous movement. Blockhead Bud will not accept that there are certain words in English usage that can mean different things to different people.

He continually misrepresents others points of view and accuses others of name calling while continually dishing it out himself. His contention that cerebral pursuits aren’t covered by dictionary definitions is a lie, and he knows it. At first, I admired his resoluteness, but after a while I realised I was dealing with a pig ignorant liar who is immune to reason.

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At first I did not take sides on whether or not chess is a sport. But now, it is pretty clear to me that chess appears to be a sport. The difference is between muscle nerves and muscle fibers. Chess works muscle nerves, not fibers. By the way, judging a definition is not the same thing as affirming a proof, especially if the definition is not specific in what it means (physical exertion can mean many things).

https://londonchessconference.com/a-question-of-sport/

Look at reason #6.

This is my last post on this thread.

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VictorOchoa wrote:

At first I did not take sides on whether or not chess is a sport. But now, it is pretty clear to me that chess appears to be a sport. The difference is between muscle nerves and muscle fibers. Chess works muscle nerves, not fibers. By the way, judging a definition is not the same thing as affirming a proof, especially if the definition is not specific in what it means (physical exertion can mean many things).

https://londonchessconference.com/a-question-of-sport/

Look at reason #6.

This is my last post on this thread.

 

That is a great article!  Very well reasoned.  

 

Chess is a sport.  

 

There are cheerleaders cheering for mate.  

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i think now it depends how you determine a sport 

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what does obese mean

 

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whats a google

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what?

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it depends how you interpret a sport