Is chess a sport? Ending the debate

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I wonder if Hulk Hogan "recognizes" chess as a sport, would this make chess a sport?
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IfPatriotGames wrote:

To answer your first question, yes, of course. A person does not have to be physically excellent to sit at a board for 5 hours. Would it help? Maybe yes maybe no, but it's certainly not required. As for the second question, that is my whole point. Grandmasters DO train. Probably for a long time. But the reasons they train and how they train is exactly why chess is not a sport. They are not training to become better at the physical parts of chess, the shuffling in their chair, the fidgeting, the hitting of the clock, the blinking of they eyes. Instead, they are training in the NON physical parts of chess, the mental part. Ever notice how sometimes chess players wrinkle thier nose when pondering a position? That wrinkling of the nose is the part chess players would practice and become good at if chess were a sport.

 

 

You said Chess requires moving a physical part of the body. Don't you think the brain is a part of your body? Besides, if you say that Chess isn't a sport, why are you playing it then? Why are people like Jeffery Xiong, Magnus Carlsen, and everybody else wasting their lives on something that isn't a sport?

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Breezyweek wrote:

 

You said Chess requires moving a physical part of the body. Don't you think the brain is a part of your body? 

No, it isn't, not in the context of the definition of the word sport.  

Here is the first half of the definition:

                              "...an activity involving physical exertion and skill..."

Let's understand here, let's put bias and pride aside, can we do that for one minute at least?

 

A physical skill, one that requires bodily exertion.  So, peeling an apple qualifies here, so does sewing a button onto a shirt, more basic examples could be typing on a keyboard, let's ad screwing a screw with a screwdriver...

These are all examples of,  "a physical skill, that weighs on the human body"

Now, not to be rude, but to get to the point...
Can your brain peel an apple?  Sew a button? Type on a keyboard?

A "physical skill" chess is not.

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Well, then what do you think Chess is?

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Breezyweek wrote:

Well, then what do you think Chess is?

Here in this forum, the only thing we are getting at is, chess is not a sport...

Chess is MANY things, many many many WONDERFUL things, but chess is not a sport...

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That's your opinion

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Breezyweek wrote:

That's your opinion

Actually, It is the definition.  Chess cannot be defined as a sport.  

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The person who wrote the definition, that was HIS OPINION!

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Breezyweek wrote:

The person who wrote the definition, that was HIS OPINION!

Actually, it is called "reality".

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IT'S CALLED OPINION!!! 

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VacationAbuser wrote:

@chess_is_9ay You are disgusting!

 

did you know his account was closed for abuse 

 

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Chess is recognized as a sport. I already put a screenshot, look

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HorribleTomato wrote:
chess_is_9ay wrote:

Unfortunately, I cannot accept information from such biased sources. For example, the ideas of delaying gratification, controlling impulses, relieving stress, and even training communication skills can all be better accomplished through the act of masturbation. 

Then why don't you [18+]

 

And I think people would rather play chess for an hour than masturbate for an hour.

(plus, you can chess in public). If you Master Up in public...

Horrible tomato, you say why don’t you (18+) what do you mean? Hard to know with that 18+ XD

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MintWarrior wrote:
chess_is_9ay wrote:
Richardinho wrote:

 

Anand says that Chess is a sport. 

Obviously though, an American with a stupid hat knows better than the four time World Champion. 

Anand is clearly a little depressed that he wasted his entire life on such a useless game. Thus, by calling chess a sport, he makes himself feel a little better because he can say he is good at a "sport" rather than a children's board game.

 

 

YOU KNOW WHAT CHES IS NAY WHY DONT YOU GET OUT AND DO THE NAY NAY WHILE DOING IT MAYBE THEN YOU COULD GET A WHIP BECAUSE IF CHESS IS SUCH A WASTE OF TIME LET ME TELL YOU SOME OTHER WASTES OF TIME BEING MEAN COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME AND CURSING WELL GUESS WHAT I SAW FROM YOU ALL 3 SO BE QUIET IN TELLING PEOPLE THERE LIFE IS/ WAS WORTHLESS

 

By the way everyone, he didn’t say nay, he said fu**

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i know but i had to be apporpiate

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jeremyosher wrote:

Chess is recognized as a sport. I already put a screenshot, look

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jeremyosher wrote:

Chess is recognized as a sport. I already put a screenshot, look

i am growing weary of this topic, as people like you come in without reading previous comments. i understand this thread has over 1000 posts, but, posts like yours force some of us to repeat ourselves.

 

you mentioned the ioc. first, has there ever been a more corrupt organization? if chess, defined as sport, will make them more money, they will do it. 

there are many events in olympic competitions that do not resemble any sport. 

 

as i see it, one of the biggest issues surrounding this is that there have been chess competitions for so many years that the ioc saw more dollar signs. 

but, it will always be a board game, not a physical sport, regardless of how anyone, or, any group attempts to define it. 

the fact that world class players were concerned with physical fitness does not make the board game where players sit in a chair a sport. if that were true, any type of tournaments for other board games would also qualify. hey! i'm running a tournament playing risk! now it is a sport and i can consider myself an athlete! 

you could substitute any board game for risk in the last paragraph. clue. monopoly. hell, even video gamers could be considered athletes, and, whatever game they play may be the next olympic sport! put down that coffee! you call yourself an athlete? (thumbs up to anyone getting that reference).

i have written many times to newbies in this topic about how, if chess is sport, every board game also qualifies. when this point is mentioned by me and others, responses shift to the ioc or any type of "recognition" by a governing body that really is only looking at the bucks. 

just because one says it is so, does not make it so.

if you, and others, want to continue to claim that chess is a sport, go ahead. i wonder, though, how it would be if any of you were to say the same things about chess being a sport to co-workers and relatives as you have here. 

 

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My response to Blockhead Bud.

I don’t want to waste any more time with this pig ignorant individual. By the same token I don’t see why the mentally defective town drunk should be continually prominent on this thread. So once posted, I will occasionally copy and paste this to caution newcomers of this truly obnoxious individual. This I take on as a service to the chess.com community.

He and many others argue that sport needs a physical component separate from the brain to be called ‘sport’. I am not unsympathetic to this viewpoint. However I believe a significant minority, including myself argue that chess is within our definition of sport. Numerous dictionaries include definitions of sport that don’t include vigorous movement. Blockhead Bud will not accept that there are certain words in English usage that can mean different things to different people.

He continually misrepresents others points of view and accuses others of name calling while continually dishing it out himself. His contention that cerebral pursuits aren’t covered by dictionary definitions is a lie, and he knows it. At first, I admired his resoluteness, but after a while I realised I was dealing with a pig ignorant liar who is immune to reason.

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  Just because the internet search results say something, this does not make these things the truth.  You must understand(this is the freaking internet), many times the results are just written by people like me and you. 

   If it isn't Wikipedia, a real dictionary or some reputable source like that, it could just be written by some random nobody(in a forum or something)...
Like this...  Which was C&P from the top of a Google search result...
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