Is chess a sport? Ending the debate

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playerafar wrote:

But animals are no match for hunters with scopes and high-powered rifles.

Why should it be called a 'sport'?
The act of dragging the kill afterwards is hardly sport either -
its work.  Not sport.
Farmers protecting their fields are indulging in 'sport'?  Hardly.
Its work.    
But for people who want to affirm to themselves and others that its 'sport' they will do so.  Maybe to satisfy some kind of psychological need to do so.  

 

Try reading the post before you respond. 

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Ziryab wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

No, the answer is in the historicity. Historically, hunting was a necessity. It was normally undertaken on foot: hence walking, running and probably climbing ... and archery. All physical skills, especially when chasng an animal. If the chasing was done on horseback, again a physical skill. Therefore it isn't a psychological need. It was probably the only "sport" that many people indulged in, either out of need or for pleasure and exercise.

 

When hunting was necessary, it was not sport.

You're agreeing with playerafar. You're wrong though.

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It probably wasn't a sport for those who were bad at it! Who didn't succeed and couldn't feed their families. But they probably found something they COULD do, like trading. I don't think you could be a good huntsman and not enjoy it, you see.

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In the modern day, it's probably impossible to be a good farmer and not enjoy that.

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Optimissed wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

No, the answer is in the historicity. Historically, hunting was a necessity. It was normally undertaken on foot: hence walking, running and probably climbing ... and archery. All physical skills, especially when chasng an animal. If the chasing was done on horseback, again a physical skill. Therefore it isn't a psychological need. It was probably the only "sport" that many people indulged in, either out of need or for pleasure and exercise.

 

When hunting was necessary, it was not sport.

You're agreeing with playerafar. You're wrong though.

 

There is an element of play and amusement in all sports. Subsistence hunting is not play.

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Ziryab wrote:
playerafar wrote:

But animals are no match for hunters with scopes and high-powered rifles.

Why should it be called a 'sport'?
The act of dragging the kill afterwards is hardly sport either -
its work.  Not sport.
Farmers protecting their fields are indulging in 'sport'?  Hardly.
Its work.    
But for people who want to affirm to themselves and others that its 'sport' they will do so.  Maybe to satisfy some kind of psychological need to do so.  

 

Try reading the post before you respond. 

Try realizing that people are allowed to post as they see fit - with or without any obligation to previous posts. And no digital A nor B either.
Try it out.  You might find it a relief to stop choking yourself while trying to choke others because you're so uncomfortable choking yourself.

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Chess - sport

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No - logic

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no

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Sea_TurtIe wrote:

I look at it like the Bud Lite scenario. What something is no longer matters. All that matters is what we "wish" it to be. Obviously chess is not a sport. But there are a lot of people who think if they blink really hard, and make a wish, it will come true.

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"The children sported in the water" is ridiculous, certainly in English English. Ziryab was very persistent but didn't get it.

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Athletics

Sports

Are these the same?

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Sports bad chess good so chess not sport

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Ziryab wrote:

Athletics

Sports

Are these the same?

No, not exactly the same. But chess is neither, so...

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Ziryab wrote:

Athletics

Sports

Are these the same?

The former is a subset of the latter but the fact that sports form a larger set than subsets of sports doesn't imply that making cakes is a sport. Or going to church. Or chess.

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Chess is not a sport.

Some people don't think table tennis is a sport, so why is chess a sport?

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JoeMamaForever420 wrote:

Chess is not a sport.

Some people don't think table tennis is a sport, so why is chess a sport?

I used to play T.T. I was quite good at it. I wonder if those people think that T.T. is a game of chance?

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At the end of a chess tourney, (typically) you are thoroughly physically exhausted. What's not "sporting" about that (regularly experienced) outcome? That physical experience obtains, regardless of the rhetorical embellishments that some (overactive) pin-heads attach to "their interpretation" of the the word "sport," in any and all dictionaries bandied about this almost 2K posted thread.

How's that for a short, readable summary of this nutty-buddy thread? Ha!