Is Chess Finally Dead?

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King_of_Checkmates

and focus mainly on the ideas

 

ChessPlayersLounge
chess_ka_khiladi wrote:

 

The current chess programs like Houdini and Rybka will trash any Chess Gradmaster (GM) including the current "World Champion" Magnus Carlsen in chess match. The Elo ratings of those programs are like at least 500 more than that of highest rated human, and modern day chess players (especially at highest level tournament play) seem to lack originality and just seem to consult chess engines for new ideas to beat their fellow human competitors. Whatever "new" idea or variation they (at GM level play) implement is analyzed on the engine first and hence the computer should get the real credit for their wins. They execute their plans by memorizing those lines, and the one with the best memory wins, unlike olden times when players tried new things over the board and used their skills and originality to win the game. 

Such being the case, is chess finally dead? Even Bobby Fischer seemed to have had the same opinion: "...Now chess is completely dead. It is all just memorisation and prearrangement. It’s a terrible game now. Very uncreative."
I think I am quitting tournament chess from today. I might still play it as a hobby from time to time, but I'm not going to participate or follow any tournaments as there seems to be little point in doing so. What are your thoughts?
 
  • There is still a point when you play a game of chess, for one you do not have to use an a i computer, when you play chess.

You still can play against other people in person, you can also ReDiscover and develop your own defenses, and most of all have fun with the game.

The point is in exercise your brain, so you can think faster, and keep your brain to function better.

There's many other points like that, for example chess is a very good conversation piece, you can eat dinner, and play chess, while having a conversation with your opponent.

The main point, when you play chess is to have F U N FUN, that's right!

I hope this is of some help to you, and maybe others.

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Terminator-T800

No it's not dead & I don't think such a good game will ever die. It's impossible for this game to die if you ask me

 

ChessPlayersLounge
Terminator-T800 wrote:

No it's not dead & I don't think such a good game will ever die. It's impossible for this game to die if you ask me

That is so true.

 

EnergeticHay

Chess will never die. 

NikolaiSpongnikov
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nighteyes1234
jacklee2010 wrote:

list one

 

Why do you need one? It happens all the time.

The Carlsen-Liren game just happened. Liren's defense blew up in his face. Which is disappointing because Liren is a really great creative player. Why he was in something so enginish is beyond me.

Yes, chess is dead to those fools who dont understand engines. Because then they are saying memorize Leela or something which is nonsense. The losers then ascribe their defeat to engines. So ignorance often wins twice. Anything to avoid accountability.

 

 

 

 

 

 

kk_gohil_gmail
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King_of_Checkmates

Chess will not die in the foreseeable future.

captainnegi
PatzerLars wrote:
Mersaphe wrote:

Carlsen is the Messiah. He will liberate us from these silicon beasts/ carlsen will kill the chess

I hope, they don't crucify him.

 

congrandolor

No. The paradox is that engines like AlphaZero and LC0 have found new ideas in the game, so they didn't kill the game, they have made it richer.

jacklee2010
lfPatriotGames wrote:
jacklee2010 wrote:

I agree. Chess, is officially dead. However sports like baseball are not dead because you can't really use an engine in it

Chess will probably never die, but Teacher summed it up pretty well. Chess is certainly not as intriguing as it once was now that machines are much better. It's no longer the mysterious game that super smart people play. I agree with corum that more people probably play now. But that's mainly because the population is so much greater now. That, plus chess is curriculum in some schools now. 

I agree with you a sport, like baseball, is unaffected by machines (even though a machine can throw a fast ball much faster than any pitcher). i guess it's just human nature. A machine doesnt intimidate a physical endeavor like it does a mental one.

we have cracked the case

congrandolor
jacklee2010 wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
jacklee2010 wrote:

I agree. Chess, is officially dead. However sports like baseball are not dead because you can't really use an engine in it

Chess will probably never die, but Teacher summed it up pretty well. Chess is certainly not as intriguing as it once was now that machines are much better. It's no longer the mysterious game that super smart people play. I agree with corum that more people probably play now. But that's mainly because the population is so much greater now. That, plus chess is curriculum in some schools now. 

I agree with you a sport, like baseball, is unaffected by machines (even though a machine can throw a fast ball much faster than any pitcher). i guess it's just human nature. A machine doesnt intimidate a physical endeavor like it does a mental one.

we have cracked the case

baseball was dead since the moment it was born. Such a boring game

wk_18

weird analogy but it works i guess

EndZoneX

Never will chess die

 

wk_18

agreed

jacklee2010
congrandolor wrote:
jacklee2010 wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
jacklee2010 wrote:

I agree. Chess, is officially dead. However sports like baseball are not dead because you can't really use an engine in it

Chess will probably never die, but Teacher summed it up pretty well. Chess is certainly not as intriguing as it once was now that machines are much better. It's no longer the mysterious game that super smart people play. I agree with corum that more people probably play now. But that's mainly because the population is so much greater now. That, plus chess is curriculum in some schools now. 

I agree with you a sport, like baseball, is unaffected by machines (even though a machine can throw a fast ball much faster than any pitcher). i guess it's just human nature. A machine doesnt intimidate a physical endeavor like it does a mental one.

we have cracked the case

baseball was dead since the moment it was born. Such a boring game

not trrue

 

neonchess007

Play dota. Its chess with more variables and randomness

IsraeliGal

If ur talking about chess being dead in the sense that humans can't compete with engines, then chess has been dead for like 2 decades now. 

 

in terms of creativity, it depends. Below 2100 rated games, chess games are still unique and fun. I see no reason why u couldn't attend tournaments and enjoy urself. At the top level tho, yes chess is pretty much dead, as highlighted by the last championship. Magnus who usually goes for the win didnt even try in the 12th match and just prefered to go into faster time controls. 

 

Magnus_Chase19

stop the necroposting

this was created 8 years ago