Is it polite or impolite to resign on your opponent's turn?

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DjVortex

In a recent game (against someone a fair bit stronger than me), towards the end of the middle game / beginning of the endgame, I made a blunder and gave my opponent a mate-in-1, which almost immediately after me having made the move became obvious.

My opponent, instead of making that move and ending the game, waited for a bit and then wrote in the chat that I should resign, because it's mate-in-1. Because I refused to resign, waiting him to make the final move, he considered me extremely rude and impolite, essentially a jerk (which he made amply clear).

I find the notion of not resigning on your opponent's turn being considered rude and impolite to be extraordinarily baffling and incomprehensible.

For quite a long time, since my days of playing Go, and even before, I have learned the principle that it's the exact opposite: Doing a move and then resigning on your opponent's turn is what's impolite and rude, not the other way around.

It is a common (but not mandatory) practice (or at least was at some point, might still be) in the grandmaster-level Go world (and probably all the way down to students), especially in Japan, that if you are in a clearly lost position and intending to resign, you make a last move, wait for your opponent to correctly respond to it, and then politely resign. Making a move and then immediately resigning on your opponent's turn would be seen as quite unusual, inappropriate, and probably rude. It would be something very strange to do.

I think it applies to all these turn-based tabletop games. After all, quite often your opponent may be thinking about his move, making sure that it actually works and that he doesn't blunder, then when he's sure that it's the correct move he makes it, and then you politely resign, as if saying "yes, that was indeed correct, you played well, I have been bested, I concede".

However, resigning on your opponent's turn I would consider rude and impolite. It's potentially interrupting your opponent while he's thinking, and it's like wordlessly telling your opponent "you know what? I'm actually not even interested in what you are going to do, I'm just ending it now. Whatever you were pondering, it doesn't matter, and I'm not interested in it." It's a bit like interrupting someone in the middle of him explaining something and rudely saying "just shut up, I'm not interested, I'm going away now."

Thus, I hold as my principle to never resign on my opponent's turn. I always wait for them to make a move before resigning, no matter how clearly I have lost. Even if it's a glaringly obvious mate-in-1 that even a 300-rated player can easily see. I'd rather give my opponent the satisfaction of executing the checkmate than interrupting them as if their move didn't matter.

Thus, I find the behavior of that other player baffling. He seriously considered me rude and impolite for not resigning on his turn. For me giving him the opportunity to deliver the checkmate at his own leisure, me waiting patiently for it, without interrupting him.

Why would anybody think that it's impolite for your opponent not to resign on your own turn, no matter what the board situation may be?

Toldsted

He should just have mated you. And I agree that if you want to resign you should normally do it when it is your turn.

I actually find it rude to resign one move from mate. I like to mate! So there is no commen idea of when to resign or not. So what you find right! 

LordErenYeager

Thats why 400 games are the best because its all out war., some are funny as hell. Blunder left and right. On 1000+ games, all of those are stressful games.

NikkiLikeChikki
I don’t think it’s impolite. If someone realized that they were lost only after they moved, I would much rather they resign immediately than make me waste my time formulating a response and calculating variations that are winning, but irrelevant. It’s over. It’s done. Move on.
FoxWithNekoEars

well at the first place i think that everybody should resign whenever they would want. its true that resigning during the turn of your opponent could looks rudly because of a social consensus, but its not something principaly wrong. i have no idea why this person thought that its wrong when you dont do it... it's weird... maybe they just wanted to force you to resign to feel superior or something idk.. Saying to your opponent that they are foolish because they didn't resign when you want is definitly rude..

sndeww

Op: I think you’re overthinking this. Resigning just  means you admit you lost.

StormCentre3

Perhaps a thesis on the topic would serve better. 10 paragraphs is not nearly enough. The subject is far more complicated. Pertinent details left undisclosed. Perhaps reading Freud will help.

Monie49
Resign when the time is right.
Not impolite. Overthinking this.
SENOR_BOMBER

It depends. If they have a guaranteed mate, don't resign. Give them the mate.
If they have a better position or more material but have no potential mates at the moment, resign.

Tails204

If you want to resign, then do it, and there's nothing impolite about it. Your opponent has won you and, I believe that you won't be able to hurt his feelings until you decide to write something inappropriate in the chat, lol

ninjaswat
pfren wrote:

Neither. It's your choice, and there is nothing impolite about it.

 

DjVortex
MelvinGarvey wrote:

People who want to rule every detail of everything are a plague.

Trying to rule what one can do or say when in agony is uncredibly petty and stupid: let them die in peace, take the win, rejoyce over it and move on.

If showing respect to your opponent is a "rule", I think it's a good rule.

blueemu

Resigning during your opponent's turn should be penalized by loss of the game.

... oh, wait...

shirsch1

I don't think it is impolite

DjVortex
MelvinGarvey wrote:

No, no way there is some rule forcing me to anything as I'm getting killed.

What's with this strange

"I think it's polite and respectful to do this."
"You are trying to rule what one can do or say!"

What?

Immaculate_Slayer

Who cares?

woton

I don't immediately resign when I make a major blunder for one reason, my opponent might miss it (doesn't happen often, but occasionally, I luck out).  

On the flip side, I've had opponents immediately resign after making a blunder.  If they had waited until their turn, they might have won the game (I missed the mistake because I was concentrating on something else).

I don't understand your opponent's logic.  It took him more time and effort to chastise you than it would have taken to make the move.

Ubik42
It takes extra effort to troll I guess
DjVortex
Immaculate_Slayer wrote:

Who cares?

When I'm being accused of being a rude jerk, when in fact I'm trying to be polite, I tend to care a bit.

Immaculate_Slayer
DjVortex escreveu:
Immaculate_Slayer wrote:

Who cares?

When I'm being accused of being a rude jerk, when in fact I'm trying to be polite, I tend to care a bit.

Then you should quit chess.com chats and forums, cause you'll find that a lot.