but if they are not mystical beings, how do they do to rule out physics laws?
It is amazing to me how a homo-centric viewpoint can stop the imagination from contemplating the idea that we don't know much? And how such a viewpoint has created laws of the universe which must be adhered to? I don't even "know" what these UFOs are, but I am very skeptical of the explantions for the reports I've read about them. The comfortable world of conformity is not my cup 'o tea, pdela.
I feel like i watching the Big Bang Theory but a better version.
I can get this 24hrs around the clock, great!
Ok, I think I found the crucial point. I will just state it and stop posting. Still tracking though, just for fun. The reasoning that some seem to hold here is :
1-Some phenemenon is not accounted for by conventional explanations.
(conventional = that could be agreed on by all, without much scientific assumptions)
2-Aliens could explain this phenomenon (maybe not perfectly, but well enough).
3-Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that it is aliens (with a more or less high degree of confidence).
But that's flawed (apart from the discussions on point 1 not being valid - let's put that aside).
Counter-example :
1-Some phenemenon is not accounted for by conventional explanations.
2-Leprechaun activity could explain this phenomenon. (they smithed a flying object or something)
3-Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that it is leprechauns.
The problem here is the false dichotomy : it does not have to be a conventional explanation OR aliens. It could be plenty of other things (I just made one up). The reason why aliens are quoted there is because they are in popular culture.
Doubt is at the root of skepticism and critical thinking. We should have more of it.
Doubt is at the root of close-mindedness, the kind which persecuted Gallileo and tried to force the assertion that the Sun circles the Earth. Doubt is responsible for a lot of ignorance and oppression. Doubt along with curiosity and testing is OK. Which means that doubt is useful to a point. You seem to lean too far in direction of rigidly clinging too it, as though it is a power or the truth itself.
No, denial as at the root of closed-mindedness.
No, denial as at the root of closed-mindedness.
I don't doubt it. But doubt is a form of denial.
Doubt is important, it shows an ability to question things.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts" Bertrand Russell
No, doubt is a form of skepticism. Doubt expresses uncertainty, closed-mindedness is rooted in certainty, as is denial.
Doubt is important, it shows an ability to question things.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts" Bertrand Russell
Great quote.
"Intelligent, even technological life is also likely given the multitude of opportunity there is for it to arise in the known universe."
I'm not convinced that there is intelligent life anywhere in the universe.
Radiation burns isn't something you can get easily, has to be in extreme situations... and unusual ones.
Nuts. All I have to do is go outside when the sun is shining and take my shirt off.
No, doubt is a form of skepticism. Doubt expresses uncertainty, closed-mindedness is rooted in certainty, as is denial.
Ok, so you have healthy doubt, the form of the word that means to question? And your questions are open to the truth, and you'll take the answers where they lead? Is that what you're trying to tell me? Because if so, I doubt that very much.
Ok, I think I found the crucial point. I will just state it and stop posting. Still tracking though, just for fun. The reasoning that some seem to hold here is :
1-Some phenemenon is not accounted for by conventional explanations.
(conventional = that could be agreed on by all, without much scientific assumptions)
2-Aliens could explain this phenomenon (maybe not perfectly, but well enough).
3-Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that it is aliens (with a more or less high degree of confidence).
But that's flawed (apart from the discussions on point 1 not being valid - let's put that aside).
Counter-example :
1-Some phenemenon is not accounted for by conventional explanations.
2-Leprechaun activity could explain this phenomenon. (they smithed a flying object or something)
3-Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that it is leprechauns.
The problem here is the false dichotomy : it does not have to be a conventional explanation OR aliens. It could be plenty of other things (I just made one up). The reason why aliens are quoted there is because they are in popular culture.
Leprechauns?
There are craft-like objects being witnessed which go so fast that experienced pilots are left in astonishment. Witnesses say their experience is of objects hovering in the air without making a sound. Witnesses say that the objects do not appear to them to be atmospheric phenomenon, but rather a flying vehicle with awareness of it's own flight and the people witnessing the objects. The objects range in size from small, egg-shaped, to gigantic tubular, rectangular, or triangle shaped. Intense, star-like, multicolored lights attached to the objects or distorting the shape of the objects is prevalent.
The most common point of view from the witnesses concerning these objects is bewilderment.
These are often the characteristics leading the witnesses to remark upon why they believe the objects were not from this world. Not pop culture, or leprechauns.
"Intelligent, even technological life is also likely given the multitude of opportunity there is for it to arise in the known universe."
I'm not convinced that there is intelligent life anywhere in the universe.
Probably because you've been spending too much time in these forums.
No, doubt is a form of skepticism. Doubt expresses uncertainty, closed-mindedness is rooted in certainty, as is denial.
Ok, so you have healthy doubt, the form of the word that means to question? And your questions are open to the truth, and you'll take the answers where they lead? Is that what you're trying to tell me? Because if so, I doubt that very much.
That's OK, I'm not really looking for you to validate it.
"Intelligent, even technological life is also likely given the multitude of opportunity there is for it to arise in the known universe."
I'm not convinced that there is intelligent life anywhere in the universe.
Probably because you've been spending too much time in these forums.
So are you calling yourself stupid or are you just humble?
Humility is my greatest virtue.
You're the most humble person I know!
Doubt is at the root of skepticism and critical thinking. We should have more of it.