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May 24, 2013
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#441
trysts wrote:
It's such a pleasure to read UFO stuff in the forums! It's like a dream come true!
Usually we don't consider advanced topics like that until the fiveums.
Estragon wrote:
"Psychics" are all frauds. NONE have ever been able to demonstrate any powers at all under controlled conditions, even when they were allowed to dictate the conditions. It's fraud, bunkum, a scam.
So, NO.
STOP INVENTING BULLSHIT... !! You want proofs?
from: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganzfeld
Entre 1974 et 1981, suffisamment de réplications de l'expérience par des équipes indépendantes (10 laboratoires) sont rassemblées pour permettre une première réponse5,6,7. Sur 28 études, 23 présentent des résultats positifs et 12 sont statistiquement significatives. La probabilité pour que ces résultats soient dus au hasard est donc inférieure à 10-10 (score Z de Stouffer : 6,6)8.
In english, it means: Between 1974 et 1981, a sufficiant amount of replications of the experience (Ganzfeld) by independent teams (10 laboratories) grouped together for a first answer. On 28 studies, 23 show positive results and 12 are statistically significant. The probability that these results come from hasard is less than 0.0000000010. (So, there are 0.00000010% chance that this doesn't come from hasard...)
To be honest, I'm sure psychic players exist but they don't show because of ignorant people. And don' t ask me what I base my certainty on, I won't answer because this'll only make people talk for nothing and say useless things about things they don't know.
Sorry for my bad english, I'm french ...
May 24, 2013
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#444
Ha! I left like five hours ago after thinking and talking about UFOs for a few hours, then I come back and y'all kept the UFO topic going! I think some taco trophies are in order
Master_Valek wrote:
If tachyons exist, they may have harnessed them for drive systems.
If angels and fairies exist, they might have harnessed them for drive systems too, or they might be transported here instantaneously via pixie dust, if it exists and has magical powers.
Master_Valek wrote:
And as for trying to travel to lightspeed, impossible, mass would increase proportional to an increase in velocity.
What are you joking?
When you mention mass that is in reference to materials on Earth. They are from another planet. And for mass to increase...... that would be the definition of weight. Then the material in question is influenced by gravity. Just to avoid all this i came up with a 2nd case which i was crystal clear. Their ship is transported to another destination light years away avoiding and danger that it could have traveling in space. That is the solution an advanced race would have here. The ship would appear just beyond our air space and then approach to land on of the preselected Continents.
Master_Valek wrote:
Tachyons are superluminal particles,
That's just tacky. Yawn. (j/k 
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Sound like my friend as he reads to many comic books. But when matched with a scientific mind i clearly see he can only fute with info from the comic book which is not much. If he used his creativity we would still be talking about the same subject now.
reflectivist wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
I can't rule out aliens either, and it is certainly possible there is life or intelligence of some sort out there, somewhere.
However the whole UFO field is poisoned with true believers who treat any random anecdotal incident as truth, believeing and spreading the most preposterous nonsense matter-of-factly.
We do not have any evidence currently of alien visitiation, and the countless sightings, pictures and videos have been exploded many times over. You can watch the dramatic special-effect laden "re-creations" on the various bad tv shows, but then google for the real story and all the missing facts. It all paints a pretty dishonest picture. Someone is just making money off ratings and selling books.
When they come, and the evidence is irresitible, though, I will be the first to applaud the news, unless of course I have been incinerated by a phaser blast. But wait for the evidence. When its real, its going to be convincing enough, i think. Until then, you can pretty much dismiss all the psychobabble as a time waster.
There's where your skepticism to me seems very much like nothing more than religion, ego and your own subjectivity and bias, and not a geniune search for the truth. You seem far far more attached to your agenda and self-identification as a 'skeptic', than as a seeker of the truth, wherever it may lead.
There is not 'poisoning of the UFO field'. There are either UFOs from aliens or there aren't. It doesn't matter how many people say that they've seen a UFO just because a Tesla EV drove by on their street, or hang out at Area 51 with Agent Mulder dolls.
At this point astrophysicists think that there are something like 500 Billion potentially habitable planets in our galaxy alone, and there are countless billion galaxies. You put that together with the fact that if you fill a test tube with some of the raw ingredients and organic compounds and jolt it with electicity or arcs, it starts to organize itself into the components of life, you really have to keep a very open mind about this and not be so rabid about discounting everything that might lead somewhere just because you don't like the package the data arrived in.
Great scientists like Einstein weren't so harsh and petty. Sure, they wanted proof and asked certain questions, but not with the kind of disdain or hostility or extreme predjudice you show that really seems like some sort of psychological issue - some unresolved anger or potty training issues you haven't worked out. Chill out a little. You can ask questions and remain unconvinced without coming unglued and keep enough of an open mind that you are capable of taking a story someone presents and leaning toward really finding out if it has merit than figuring out how to shut it down and dismiss it just because the whole 'field' has been 'poisoned', according to you.
Its a poisoning because all the literature is flooded with the credulous, the hoaxsters, the moneymakers. For example, the video I posted, very realistic looking, of the low flying UFO creating the crop circles. Admitted hoax.
So, a new video pops up. Is it even worth wasting time on at this point?
If this were a real phenomenon, with all the cameras we should have hours of footage. instead, we have hoax after hoax. How many times do you intend to be fooled?
And sorry, no agenda is involved. When I was a teen (way back in the 70's) I was a UFO believer (my CB handle was even "UFO"). I am a sci fi buff. No one on the planet would think it cooler than to contact alien life. its just that the "evidence" so far amounts to a steaming pile, with a steady stream of amateur hoaxsters trying to outdo each other, and a whole cadre of believers who will believe in spite of all the evidence.
As an example of this last, even years after the crop circle hoaxsters identified themselves, and how they did it, inspiring legions around the world, people , astonishingly, still believe it has to be aliens anyway. What can explain this attitude?
Regarding it all as a steaming pile, filled with hoaxsters, does not preclude the posibility that real evidence will show up one day.
To be convincing, it has to be extraoridinary evidence. Something we can examine. Something that cannot reasonably be explained any other way.
Master_Valek wrote:
It isn't that ships need to be lightweight, in space weight does not exist.
...but inertia does.
TheGrobe wrote:
By the way, Michio Kaku is also a publicity seeking crank.
Yes, take what he says with as many grains of salt as you like.
Perhaps in other dimensions there are different laws of different physics??? So what we think of as psychic, or magic, or UFOs is simply activity of another dimension, not quite meshing with our own. It's a bit beyond a poor chess pawn -- like me.
Ubik42 wrote:
To be convincing, it has to be extraoridinary evidence. Something we can examine. Something that cannot reasonably be explained any other way.
To be utterly convincing, yes. But at some point, if enough people see a certain thing they can't quite explain, and can't test (don't have the tools or don't know how), they may legitimately to develop a sense that it is happening, or something worth investigating further is occuring, and even feel they have some sense of what it might be. So they lean toward a belief, but can't conclude.
You might realize the world is not flat, for example, before you know that it is spherical. Nevertheless, I agree with you, lacking substantial proof, it is inconclusive.
"Crank" is hyperbole, but Kaku on science shows will not sufficiently distinguish facts from conjecture.
May 24, 2013
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#455
@Ubik42: I recommend buying two excellent books. "UFOs and the National Security State: 1941-1973" and, "UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials go on the Record".
I also recommend watching any Youtube lecture given by Jacques Vellee, or any of his books you can find.
Master_Valek wrote:
It's a common crank theme to say ''aliens from another dimension.'' Dimension and ''universe'' mean two different things in physics. If you say from another universe, then we are talking about possible wormholes and parallel universes.
You talk as if science has a handle on other dimensions and what it means -- or of dark matter. No-one has any idea., , Other dimensions or dark matter may not even exist, being inventions to hold the big bang theory and string theory together. So scientists (honest ones) admit they have no more idea than you -- or me.
May 24, 2013
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#457
Master_Valek wrote:
trysts wrote:
@Ubik42: I recommend buying two excellent books. "UFOs and the National Security State: 1941-1973" and, "UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials go on the Record".
I also recommend watching any Youtube lecture given by Jacques Vellee, or any of his books you can find.
Timothy Good, even though I don't agree with all his assertions, does have some excellent books with photocopies of previously secret memo's which shows great interest by the Military and Government into UFO's.
Timothy Good thinks there are aliens walking around in suits. I'm not quite there
May 24, 2013
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#458
Master_Valek wrote:
Neither do I, but again, he has some excellent sources of information in his books... you just need to look past some of his outlandish idea's... but a lot of that has to do with perhaps, a lack of scientific education.
True, you have to be very discerning about the material you read for this subject. It's a subject you have to spend a lot of time on.
People are bad observers of the night sky, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_illusion), have selective attention problems (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWSxSQsspiQ) , and have really bad memories of events.
For example, think back to 9/11 (if you are old enough). The day of the plane crash. Do you remember seeing video of the first plane htting the North tower? Yeah?
Well, too bad for you. Thats a false memory. Video of the first plane wasnt shown until a few days later. Also, where were you when you heard the news? Whatever your memory is, it about 35% likely to be wrong. You were somewhere else, other than where you remember.
You probably don't believe your memory has such a high chance to be wrong, and there is a very good reason for it. Do you know what it feels like for your memory to be wrong?
Exactly the way it feels when your memory is correct.
bear this stuff in mind as you get caught up in all these believable, convincing eyewitness accounts. yeah, they don't have to be consciously deceiving you, or even themselves. it may help, but it isnt neccesary, their minds will play enough tricks on them to get the job done. Not much extra effort is required.
Master_Valek wrote:
royalbishop wrote:
Master_Valek wrote:
And as for trying to travel to lightspeed, impossible, mass would increase proportional to an increase in velocity.
What are you joking?
When you mention mass that is in reference to materials on Earth. They are from another planet. And for mass to increase...... that would be the definition of weight. Then the material in question is influenced by gravity. Just to avoid all this i came up with a 2nd case which i was crystal clear. Their ship is transported to another destination light years away avoiding and danger that it could have traveling in space. That is the solution an advanced race would have here. The ship would appear just beyond our air space and then approach to land on of the preselected Continents.
wtf are you prattling about?
Matter is matter... no form of matter is outside the laws of physics and the laws of physics is the same on every planet.
Now i know you do not have a scientific mind as you have no proof and neither do i here. But you can form theories can be debated. As they are aliens the elements from their planet would be different. And if they could travel here they clearly would have found a superior material build a ship.
But again your not paying attention as i said and for the third time the ship is transported so space is not a medium. You watch to many Sci Fi movies as the blunder with their facts often.
And make up your are you talking about mass, weight or matter as it keeps changing and it would make it very difficult to converse with on this subject without me taking up 3 pages of text here in which everybody would kill me not because it was so long but i went into so many details they got a headache after they read it.