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blueemu
sapientdust wrote:

blueemu: given the near inevitability of life (which I also believe), the Fermi paradox becomes an even more pressing question than for those that think we were a one-off fluke.

What do you believe is the reason that we have not yet seen evidence of advanced extraterrestrial intelligence? A recent paper (http://arxiv.org/abs/1304.3381) gave an interesting new answer, or at least a new justification for an old answer, but I think the paper was very flawed even if the ideas themselves (and their new approach) are intriguing.

The Fermi paradox is a problem, agreed.

There are a number of possible solutions, none fully satisfactory.

It might be that while life is inevitable, intelligent life is not. The evolutionary survival value of intelligence has yet to be demonstrated. Perhaps a complex brain more of a handicap than an advantage?

Also, it's possible that the original microscopic life on Earth (bacteria, etc) was seeded onto our planet by cometary collision when another star passed close enough for the Oort Clouds to mingle. If intelligent life actually requires about ten billion years of evolution (from inorganic precursor chemicals all the way to insurance salesmen) with the first half of that evolution having taken place in a biosphere orbiting some other star... rather than the nearly five billion years that our own star has been shining... that would explain why the place seems so empty: the universe isn't much more than ten billion years old, and our race is one of the first to emerge.

We just don't know the answer.

SnatchPato

I do not know.

Knightly_News
PATOMARK wrote:

I do not know.

Lao Tzu said those who know do not speak and those who speak do not know.  So maybe if you stop telling us you don't know, you'll know

SnatchPato
reflectivist wrote:
PATOMARK wrote:

I do not know.

Lao Tzu said those who know do not speak and those who speak do not know.  So maybe if you stop telling us you don't know, you'll know

Werd.

blueemu
reflectivist wrote:
PATOMARK wrote:

I do not know.

Lao Tzu said those who know do not speak and those who speak do not know.  So maybe if you stop telling us you don't know, you'll know

Lao Tzu didn't know either.

Ya know?

Knightly_News
blueemu wrote:
reflectivist wrote:
PATOMARK wrote:

I do not know.

Lao Tzu said those who know do not speak and those who speak do not know.  So maybe if you stop telling us you don't know, you'll know

Lao Tzu didn't know either.

Ya know?

"Be still and know I am God"

kapabl
blueemu wrote:
reflectivist wrote:
PATOMARK wrote:

I do not know.

Lao Tzu said those who know do not speak and those who speak do not know.  So maybe if you stop telling us you don't know, you'll know

Lao Tzu didn't know either.

Ya know?

Sealed

Dischyzer

YES! A chuckle from me before bed. "Plus old blue eyes"

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NobbyCapeTown

lol. It is amazing how a topic is dissiminated and dissected and branches out into all kinds of theological and philosphical factions including Frank Sinatra.

Bottom line: e = mc2 and we are all on this planet "en passent".

sapientdust
blueemu wrote:

The Fermi paradox is a problem, agreed.

There are a number of possible solutions, none fully satisfactory.

It might be that while life is inevitable, intelligent life is not. The evolutionary survival value of intelligence has yet to be demonstrated. Perhaps a complex brain more of a handicap than an advantage?

Also, it's possible that the original microscopic life on Earth (bacteria, etc) was seeded onto our planet by cometary collision when another star passed close enough for the Oort Clouds to mingle. If intelligent life actually requires about ten billion years of evolution (from inorganic precursor chemicals all the way to insurance salesmen) with the first half of that evolution having taken place in a biosphere orbiting some other star... rather than the nearly five billion years that our own star has been shining... that would explain why the place seems so empty: the universe isn't much more than ten billion years old, and our race is one of the first to emerge.

We just don't know the answer.

Did you look at that paper? They argue that life has been developing exponentially for 10 billion years, and that therefore it wasn't the case that it developed quickly on Earth -- pretty much exactly what you said.

I think there are flaws with their exponential argument, but the idea of intelligent life taking 10 billion years or so to develop is the best answer I've seen yet. It completely explains the paradox as well as related questions like "how could we possibly be among the first given that our planet was formed late in the life of the universe? -- life should have developed first on other earth-like planets that formed earlier in time than Earth."

blueemu
sapientdust wrote:

Did you look at that paper?

In fact, I hadn't... since whenever I've gone to that arxiv.org site in the past all I can view is the abstract, not the paper itself. I just checked your link now (and again, only the abstract is available) and it does sound remarkably like the possibility I put forward... they even mention Panspermia in the same role that I mentioned cometary collisions from a mingled Oort Cloud.

I am not any sort of scientist... my work experience is in making children's cartoons for international TV. I was Leica Edit (the cartoon version of choreography) on this show, for instance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2StFis1AZjo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN7D6xuIljk

sapientdust

The links to view the full paper are on the right side of the screen. They usually have at least a PDF version for download, and sometimes other formats. If you use NoScript, you might have to enable Javascript  for that site. 

I'm not any sort of a scientist either -- just an interested amateur. Is your avatar and username a reference to the blue emu in the first link you sent?

blueemu
sapientdust wrote:

Is your avatar and username a reference to the blue emu in the first link you sent?

That's right... he's the grumpy, short-tempered bad guy in the series, so he seemed like a natural for my own nick.

WayneT

I love it how people speak against psychic abilities with such astounding authority on the subject. lol

nameno1had
waynet wrote:

I love it how people speak against psychic abilities with such astounding authority on the subject. lol

Who would have predicted that ?

Irontiger
ucanthandlethetruth wrote:

to stay on topic. prove to me definitively that the unproven does not exist. this uses your same model.

Prove me that I am not an entity from another world that will eat your soul if you do not send $1000 to my Paypal account. I am causing the Earth rotation. I can resurrect your dead relatives for $10000 each too. I cannot prove any of those abilities in front of a detector, because, well, because.

Or maybe, maybe I should prove my ridiculous claim instead ?

 

If say your chess.com account gets hacked, what do you suspect first : a psychic "read" your password or a pirate installed a fishing virus on your computer ?

So please, do all of us a favor, and read about Occam's razor, after coming back giving some evidence.

For the others : this site loads another page of crap at each refresh, usually a good laugh. Computer-generated. http://www.verifiedfacts.org/

ivandh

Belgium is, of course, a hoax.

December_TwentyNine

Prove to me that I look like my Avatar. I once had a player here on chess.com call me "babe" in the middle of a game via chat!!! Of course, he was a 700 rated, which is near my own skill level. Unfortunately, this thread only applies to Masters, in which the USCF defines as "Any player who reaches a 2200 rating" and alas, my psychic friends, is the reason why myself nor my opponent would be able to have psychic abiliites...which explains the reason behind the original "babe" comment.