is it theoretically possible to boost ELO rating by 1000 point in 1 year?

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hello, im new here, i start playing chess just now, im interesting if my elo rating is 1600 is it possible if i train as hell i boost my ELO rating by 1000 point and get 2600? in train i dont mean only learning chess also i mean physical training, supplements for brain and many non standart methods to boost brain ability. well i dont like to talk good thing about me, but my mathematical abilities are very high , i was 4 times 1st place winner  of my country mathematical olympiad were participating over 60 000 people, that is reason why im thinking that i have advantage in thinking level in  logic  and  creativity, also i see what i proggresing too fast in anything if i train well, and that gives me hope to make big goals in chess,  but i am 21 years old and i dont know if it is problem to became top player because brain at this age less plastical then in childhood, what u think guys is it possible to boost by 1000 point from 1600 to 2600 in 1 year by only spenfing all day only chess? ps. sorry about my english

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unless youre a child prodigy at chess, its very unlikely from the level you are starting at. 

 

1600 is considered the average adult rating

 

and by average, i mean people that actually play in tournaments etc..

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Try it 

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i dont want to try if i cant make big goals, i just start playing now and i see it is very interesting and deep game. so i just wanted to know if it is possible and if it worth to try to became top player from this age.

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Also do you play OTB chess? I see on this site you have not played many standard games (8) and a couple of them ended in less than 10 moves. you would have to play more to get an accurate rating (assuming your basing your rating off of this site)

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i dont know what is OTB chess sorry :D 

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Over the board  like face to face chess

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yes i play and i play that more better because i am more motivated to beat opponent, in online i really dont care i win or lose.

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Ok. Well I'm pretty sure no one has gotten 1000 rating points in a year, and the ratings get harder and harder to get as you go up . You could expect alot of improvement in a year if you work very hard but not 1000 .

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Theoretically? Then yes. Theoretically it's possible for you to get to 2900 in one year.

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im agree your opinion. i will see how my rating will progress by hard work in 6 month if i cant get what i want i'd forget to became top player. 

 

of course i understand even super child prodigy is almost impossible to get +1000 ELO rating in 1 year, i just make this question because i was interesting in reasons

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If your playing chess solely because you want to be a top player you wont get very far .

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i went from about 1050 to 1800 in a little over a year.

most of it came from not hanging pieces and playing solidly.

its much more possible to make it to class A or class B from complete novice player, than it from class B to GM levels.

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yes its true, when u are weak u have very big "weak places" and boosted them easily and u can get rating progress fast, but when u are good player "weak places" are much much less and u need after this to work about your abilites not weakneses

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It is not theoretically possible to achieve 2,600 in one year. In theory, you need to study for about 10,000 hours to get to that rating. It's more than 27 hours a day. However it is possible to achieve 2,600 in 5-10 years. It depends on how much time you are willing and able to spend on chess on a weekly basis.

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i think i have no ability to became 2600 ELO chess player even 3 years intensivity training, but i dont agree "10 000 hour" dogma , well for example we can take 2 human first has IQ 110 and second has IQ 160,  they all have similar knowledge in chess, but IQ 160 would destroyd IQ 110 because he can use his knowldge more better more fast and more creativity, and thats will be reason why he will beat first human, so i dont agree "10 000 hour", if i get it in 10 000 hour more talented then me will get it more fast, or maybe people when say "10 000 hour" means something other....

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The rating in chess measures player's ability to beat other players. You can call it chess IQ. If you have a higher chess rating, that means you have spent more time to learn and memorize more patterns, than a player with a lower rating. And, presumably, If Player A has rating 1800, it will take less time for him to get to 2000, than for Player B who has a rating of 1400.

 

The thing is, you can easily work up the volume of your training increasing it by 10% a week. You don't need to have tremendous willpower. I would say, that in one year, it is theoretically possible for a 1600 rated player to acquire 2200 rating (candidate master).

 

Let's assume it takes 2,500 hours to become a 2200 rated player for the complete beginner. If I can guess that to get to your level a person needs 300 hours. Then you need to train 2,200 hours, which is certainly unrealistic but doable.

 

If you start with 1 hour a day that how it goes:

 8 weeks 1 hour a day

 4 weeks 2 hour a day

 3 weeks 3 hrs day

 2 weeks 4 hours daily

 2 weeks 5 hours/d

 1 week 6 hour/d

 1 week 7 hour/d

 1 week 8 hour/d

1 week 9 hour/d

26 weeks 10 hours daily – and forget about your weekends.

 

And of course it is far more realistic, and you can have your ordinary life if you stretch this into 3-4 years.

 

The biggest obstacle I see (why it is hard to do it fast) is money supply, because chess alone will not feed a person. I read somewhere that top 10 player (2770 elo ~ certainly more than 15,000 hours total) can only make $150,000 per year. So, it is for you to decide should you waste your time on chess.Wink

 

I think that might be one of the reasons why there were so many strong grandmasters from Soviet Union. They could train and not think about money much.

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Yeah you can go from 0 to 1000 no problem.

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Oh, for sure it's possible to gain 1000 points in one year. You'd have to have a provincial rating of about 400 for it to be realistic though.

With a standard rating of 1600, I'm not sure if it is logistically possible, even if you were already PLAYING at a 2600 level.

I believe that the maximum points you can win from one game is 28 (let's round to 30). You get that by beating someone 300 points higher than you. So if you're actually as good as a 2600 with a 1600 rating, you should play some 1900s or 2000s and win fairly easily. Unfortunately, it's not like you get to play 2000s every day. Let's say you're willing to travel. You have inheritance money and you don't need to work. You can go to a tournament with all 2000 rated players every month. Let's also be generous and say you get 5 rounds per tournament. So you play 5 games a week, making sure to play 2000 rated players, and you'll gain 300 rating points in 2 months. Unfortunately, to maintain the ~30 ELO point gain per game, you have to be playing progressively harder opponets. You'll be needing to beat 2600s to get the full 30 points, and since that's how good you are in this scenario, you'll get draws instead. So you gain 15 points. And as you get better and better, the wins you get will count for less and less. And it will be harder and harder to find tournaments with people high enough above you that you can catch 2600 in one year.

 

So even if Magnus Carlsen switched brains with you, I don't think it's physically possible to gain 1000 points from tournaments even if you're already that good. And you're not that good, so you also have to factor in the time spent GETTING that good.

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ok guys thanks for advices, i will try go To 2000 ELO strength in 1 year, what is realistic i think.  but to became top player is imposible for me because i think too late because im 21 years old and my brain cant adapted in chess in such level to became the top player. my main interest in chess is positional playing, i think good positional player will beat good combination player. so my interest in chess is to learn positional playing in deep levels. i want to transfer positional playing in mathematics and see that type playing style in mathematics more deeper. also its interesting how works human brain algoritms and how he can to do not think about bad moves and make good moves so its about intuition and its interesting too. i just want use mathematics and psychology to boost positional playing strategy or see already exist strategy from different angles. and if i create and boost strategy in positional playing its will be good feeling. i hate calculation thats why im more like positional playing then combination playing style.