Is Kramnik really a patzer?

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trotters64

Today I saw a super GM play a move that would leave a 1500 rated player feeling very embarrassed. He allowed Svidler to play Bxh2 and lost the exchange and a pawn in the process.

Time for Kramnik to retire ?.

ilgambittoo

Play with kids.

govindmprabhu

1500 embarrassed? That's how they lose

theoreticalboy

And he missed that mate-in-one against the computer that one time!  Clearly he's just awful and it was just a fluke that he proved impenetrable in taking the world championship from maybe the best chess player of all time.

trotters64
pfren wrote:

Any genuine patzer, like you, is free to assume Kramnik is a patzer. This is called, in vague terms, "democracy".

 I hope you dont vote for golden dawn pfren ; by the way I know you are a big fan of Kramnik but get a grip ...he blundered like a buffoon and that's the end of it.

trotters64
chessmicky wrote:

No. Many of the greatest players have commited the occasional blunder. To generalize about a great player's career based on a single move is idiotic.

So serious micky .... lighten up; my post is a tongue in cheek remark.

trotters64
orangeishblue wrote:

Kramnik blundered but he is far from being a buffoon, unlike people that think Kramnik is a patzer.

Get back in your pram ,I didn't say he was a buffoon just that he blundered like one.

3kush3

Haha

3kush3

Still remember the IM pfren guy saying that any match except Cramnik-Carlsen would turn out to be farce..Now this tourney is turning out to be farce for Vlad

Synaphai

Every World Champion blundered in his chess career. Carlsen, for example, lost badly to Giri in Wijk aan Zee 2011. Avoiding this key counteragument by pretending that "he blundered like a buffoon and that's the end of it" is synonymous with "he is a patzer" and "time for Kramnik to retire" is cheap and logically erroneous.

trotters64
3kush3 wrote:

Still remember the IM pfren guy saying that any match except Cramnik-Carlsen would turn out to be farce..Now this tourney is turning out to be farce for Vlad

+1

MSC157
3kush3 wrote:

Still remember the IM pfren guy saying that any match except Kramnik-Carlsen would turn out to be farce.

Yeah. And he was absolutely correct! I'm still considering the option not to watch WCC in November in case Anand/Aronian wins Candidates.

3kush3
MSC157 wrote:
3kush3 wrote:

Still remember the IM pfren guy saying that any match except Kramnik-Carlsen would turn out to be farce.

Yeah. And he was absolutely correct! I'm still considering the option not to watch WCC in November in case Anand/Aronian wins Candidates.

Eh? We are in March & he is proved correct. Too many patsy oracles around here..

FanOfCarlsen

Define Patzer.. How stupid.. He is ex-world champ and any tom-dick-harry like trotters64 calling him Patzer.. LOL.. Please close this stupid thread.. 

trotters64
MSC157 wrote:
3kush3 wrote:

Still remember the IM pfren guy saying that any match except Kramnik-Carlsen would turn out to be farce.

Yeah. And he was absolutely correct! I'm still considering the option not to watch WCC in November in case Anand/Aronian wins Candidates.

OH no! please tune in to the WCC in November.I've just heard the authorities announce that the match can't go ahead unless MSC157 from Slovenia is watching.

3kush3

Haha this thread has succeeded so many getting riled..

FanOfCarlsen
pfren wrote:

Any genuine patzer, like you, is free to assume Kramnik is a patzer. This is called, in vague terms, "democracy".

Best reply to this thread! Hats off! :D

trotters64
FanOfCarlsen wrote:

Define Patzer.. How stupid.. He is ex-world champ and any tom-dick-harry like trotters64 calling him Patzer.. LOL.. Please close this stupid thread.. 

Even your idol Carlsen says that Kramik thinks way too highly of Kramnik's abilities .Incidentally ,you said that Kramnik is an ex-world champ;I think the word EX is very much the operative word in Kramnik's case.

trotters64
FanOfCarlsen wrote:
pfren wrote:

Any genuine patzer, like you, is free to assume Kramnik is a patzer. This is called, in vague terms, "democracy".

Best reply to this thread! Hats off! :D

Man you are seriously lacking a sense of humour..I think its funny and encouraging that great players make blunders too.

FanOfCarlsen

@trotters: pfren already made you flat! :D :D :D