Is The Analysis Board Fare

Could anybody explain to me why there is a Analysis Board on chess.com, i think it is unfair to be able to find the best move on the board by using the analysis board several times and then make your move, this is the same as using a computer to arrive at the best possible move, when you should be using your own judgment, without using any aid what so ever.

After playing 313 games of online chess you came to that conclusion?

Correspondance chess counts for nothing...

You're right, because there is no such thing.

Correspondence chess, on the other hand, is one of the best ways to learn and improve your game.  The analysis board is "traditional" and completely fair.  In the old days, you would get your move by postcard, then walk over to the board you had set up and make the actual move, then spend hours playing out different lines, choose a reply, mail it out, then keep analyzing the position, trying to anticipate your opponent's next move.

Sometimes when your opponent's next move arrived you already had played out that entire variation on your "analysis board" in advance.

LOLOL thanks for spell checking for me.

Best ways to learn? i doubt that. Not going help you in any actual world chess experience. But you will be a truely adored internet hero that all your online friends will look up to!

1) it's not the same as using a computer

2) yes it's fair

Even if there wasn't one you could just play out moves on a physical board anyway.  If you're more of a judgmental player you have an advantage in correspondence because the use of an analysis board neutralizes any weaknesses one may have with visualization and/or calculation. 

i think the analysis board is good it helps you think things thru if it was somehow monitered it would be able to prove that you are not cheating

Why so bitter?  Got clobbered in correspondence chess?

actually, i have a higher rating in online chess due to the fact that the 3 day time control allows for deeper analysis. Unfortunately that dosen't equal a strong over the board rating. My USCF is only 1630

hi !

Yes, that is a pretty standard gap to have between the ratings.

yedddy wrote:

LOLOL thanks for spell checking for me.

Best ways to learn? i doubt that. Not going help you in any actual world chess experience. But you will be a truely adored internet hero that all your online friends will look up to!

What is logical is that you can only learn something at a slower speed than you can execute it. You can't learn to execute an ending in a classical time control by playing blitz. This is basic chunking theory. This makes it obvious that correspondence chess is a very effective learning tool. Certainly not the only tool, but a good one. Sorry if you have been missing out.

This is so true. And what about people who imagine the board in their heads and then move the pieces on that board! It's just like using a computer. And using a computer to write about chess is like using a computer, and so is using your own brain. That's a kind of computer too. So using your own judgement, is like using a computer, when you really should be using your own judgement... and how is it even possible to move a piece? How? I mean if a line segment has an infinite number of points then if a point has any thickness at all, any thickness, the line segment would have to be infinitely long... yet if a point has NO thickness, then a line segment should be an infinite addition of zeros... equalling zero... length is impossible! Dimensionality is an illusion... And yet you sit here playing chess with an analysis board. Cowards! 

No doubt it can be a learning lesson. The comments that were made stated that it is the best learning lesson. The fact of the matter is that it is not. NO, i repeat no chess game that means anything has no time control constraints. Even standard time control in an OTB tournament is something like 90|30. Even those games near the endgame result in some time trouble moves. So to play a 3 day time control game that never gets down to crunch time isn't doing anybody any good.

don't agree at all, CC is a superior forum of chess, really chess.. Clocks are for noobs! There shouldn't be any time in chess games. Clocks were only added at some point in time. Originally there was no time set for a chess game, they would last 6 hours or more :)

yedddy wrote:

No doubt it can be a learning lesson. The comments that were made stated that it is the best learning lesson. The fact of the matter is that it is not. NO, i repeat no chess game that means anything has no time control constraints. Even standard time control in an OTB tournament is something like 90|30. Even those games near the endgame result in some time trouble moves. So to play a 3 day time control game that never gets down to crunch time isn't doing anybody any good.

if it weren't timed then some buhda could sit at the board for eternity till he figured out all the moves and mastered the game(yawn) while his opponent withered and died. Its the clock that makes it great. A sport. A challenge. Its the constraints that make it a excellent undertaking.

In my opinion, the analysis board is not fare. Cash is fare, and sometimes credit cards, but I've never seen the analysis board accepted.

This is not 100% true. I make calculation errors regularly still.

Maybe so. But to say correspondance chess is "Not going help you in any actual world chess experience" is not accurate.

My Live Chess game has improved greatly becuse of what I've learned in Online Chess. It is also suggested by respected coaches like Dan Heisman to improve your overall game.

It's sort of like learning to play a musical instrument. You start slowly so you can train your muscle memory. Online Chess, or correspondance chess, is the equivelant to this. You can take your time to learn openings, strategy and fundamentals so when you play a timed game, you can do it more quickly and accurately.