Is the Traxler Counter Attack a solid opening?

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this is made up but a lot of players would play this line

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ksh0924 wrote:

this is made up but a lot of players would play this line

 

And yet, 5.Nxf7? is the first lemon, and 9.c3? the second one.

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Still, if bishop takes, Ke7 and when the bishop escapes, black gets a huge development lead with rc8, h6, qe8(getting space from the empty f7 square) and soon also be able to develop a bishop.

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For c3, bishop g4 is trapping the queen and kxf2 is kind of worse than the first

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And in the bishop sac line, the knight on f3 trying check the king on e7 and trade knights is just a move that gives black a tempo since if nc3 happens first, the f2 square is still a target which means white castles first and give black more activity.

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oh wait it's knight on f6

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my bad. anyway, its still the same thing is you just put in nf6

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in the traxler the last one to move wins...every time.

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No.

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well, according to im levy rozman there is a 26 moves sequence of engine theory where white gets a slight advantage but prob equal

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Traxler is absolutely terrible

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ksh0924 wrote:

well, according to im levy rozman there is a 26 moves sequence of engine theory where white gets a slight advantage but prob equal

Literally everything Levy says about openings is wrong.

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tried it alot.. out of ten games lost only one game won remaining all nine

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its OP.. but you should byheart its theory lolllllll

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ksh0924 wrote:

For c3, bishop g4 is trapping the queen and kxf2 is kind of worse than the first

i still prefer playing black for a reason.. first kick that knight then capture the pawn central one and target on f pawn and bring rook into the file.. king is safe lol 

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and i remember lol i used it in tournament (RISK 100 MODE ON) in offline tournament on board  i guess.. what an player is he lol let me show you the                                          moves lol

my heart was beating for no reason as its in top risky openings for black.. and what an player is he LOL.. made me laugh i could not stop laughing everyone who were playing were staring at me lol.. not teasing him btw

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sachin884 wrote:
ksh0924 wrote:

For c3, bishop g4 is trapping the queen and kxf2 is kind of worse than the first

i still prefer playing black for a reason.. first kick that knight then capture the pawn central one and target on f pawn and bring rook into the file.. king is safe lol 

after all i got same position like that and opponent resigned when i kicked that knight brought rook into the attack.. all his queen side pieces sleeping.. queen soon came into the king side.. dark squared bishop controlling f pawn.. light squared bishop ready for hook pawn.. bye bye white king happy

btw i said right i lost one position out of ten

let me show you the position

complications complications.. i hate complications... i avoid them.. but complications likes me i cant avoid them lollllllllllllll nice dialogue right

i had so much time pressure as i i thought alot as traxler counter attack needs alot of depth thinking and by that time pressure played blunder

in twelveth move he captured with rook because if he captured with knight i would have gained alot of tempos

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ksh0924 wrote:

For c3, bishop g4 is trapping the queen and kxf2 is kind of worse than the first

 

6...Rf8 is inaccurate, already. Black is just a pawn down after 7.d3 d6 8.Nf3! Qe8 9.Be3. For better, or worse, Black has to try 6...Qe8.

 

And it's not just 6.Bb3- 6.Bd5 as well as 6.Bc4!? (I like the latter) give Black trouble.

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sachin884 wrote:
sachin884 wrote:
ksh0924 wrote:

For c3, bishop g4 is trapping the queen and kxf2 is kind of worse than the first

i still prefer playing black for a reason.. first kick that knight then capture the pawn central one and target on f pawn and bring rook into the file.. king is safe lol 

after all i got same position like that and opponent resigned when i kicked that knight brought rook into the attack.. all his queen side pieces sleeping.. queen soon came into the king side.. dark squared bishop controlling f pawn.. light squared bishop ready for hook pawn.. bye bye white king

btw i said right i lost one position out of ten

let me show you the position

complications complications.. i hate complications... i avoid them.. but complications likes me i cant avoid them lollllllllllllll nice dialogue right

i had so much time pressure as i i thought alot as traxler counter attack needs alot of depth thinking and by that time pressure played blunder

in twelveth move he captured with rook because if he captured with knight i would have gained alot of tempos

 

Now honestly, if you cannot win against a beginner's move like 8.Ke1?? then you'd rather play some other opening. The final position is won for Black (did you really lose this? how?), but only after both sides blundered several times.

I guess this was a blitz game, so all these terrible moves- no?