Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?

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Besides, look at Mozart, he wrote his first symphony at age 13,(yes, I actually started writing my first opera at that age) but still, he did not have much experience at it, but he still did it, so why can't I ? Besides, His symphony is still very famous to this day!

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What puzzles, Daniel_Inigo, remember, I am new to this site!!?!.

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Absolutely no chance, maybe a small 1% if that chance the 2700 has to play blindfolded and can't write down the moves. but then again 2700 players can play blindfolded against multiple people at the aye time and still win. That's like asking if some highschool basketball player has a chance to beat Michael Jordan in a 1v1 game. His chances of winning is astronomically low. Jordan would have to sprain something lol

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"That's like asking if some highschool basketball player has a chance to beat Michael Jordan in a 1v1 game"

No, it's not. Michael Jordan is good at basketball and 2700s are good at chess, but the connection is too shallow because one single mistake can't lose you a game of basketball like it can in chess.

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MPS500 wrote:

I have actually recently got a personal story about this.

 

I was in my school tournament, where I did very well, and got to the finals. In the quarter finals, I met this very strong player, who I barely managed to beat, and he warned me about this other person...

Do you guys think he cheated? This might help answer this question.

With the info you stated it's just too nebulous to detremine. is it possible? - yes, but it sounds like someone would have been signaling him moves, and in the format you described... it be very difficult to get away with.

i have to admit... it does sound suspect... but it may be just sour grapes in a way. maybe he learned on a computer and made him move like one?????

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Elubas wrote:

"That's like asking if some highschool basketball player has a chance to beat Michael Jordan in a 1v1 game"

No, it's not. Michael Jordan is good at basketball and 2700s are good at chess, but the connection is too shallow because one single mistake can't lose you a game of basketball like it can in chess.

This is a misconception. To start, to lose in a single move means by a checkmate. The position must be presented on the board. The 2700 will not be mated in 4 moves. (I do not want to hear, well it could happen) as this is absurd. The 1300 simply will not reach a winnable position to make a checkmate possible.

The sports analogy can be used imo. The professional might reasonably make a few mistakes, lose a Queen or stumble and fall, but still easily recover and win the game.

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The question is the same. Do I posses the necessary skills to ever beat Jordan ? No

Do I posses the necessary skills to ever beat a 2700 ? No

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I think I can beat Michael Jordan.

If I get the white pieces.

But Magnus Carlsen will trash me in basketball.

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I couldn't help myself but put a link to a recent article here, https://www.chess.com/article/view/can-anyone-be-an-im-or-gm.There, silman talks about the weaknesses of a particular low rated player. However, he thinks these weaknesses don't have to be permanent, that the player can save himself from these weaknesses.

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"(I do not want to hear, well it could happen)"

Well, it could happen. I say it because it's true lol.

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An absurdity can not happen.

Elephants can not fly now, nor ever.

That is what is true.

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Physics prevent elephant ears from generating sufficient lift.

Physics don't prevent a human from blundering horribly in a chess game (unfortunately!)

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yes if they play hard enough and 2700 blunders a bit.

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If 1300 is game 1300 should challenge 2700 and see if 2700 is game. Play it out 1300

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A 1300 player could physically beat a 2700 player.

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There is always a chance for anything to happen. Experts in a given field simply know how to reduce their risk while maximizing their chance of creating lucrative opportunities.

For example of a "pleb" vs. a top tier type of player, peep Max Dlugy vs. 1400-rated ICC player.

You can find the game on Youtube. Cheers, boys.

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mdinnerspace wrote:

An absurdity can not happen.

Elephants can not fly now, nor ever.

That is what is true.

Based on what we know now, elephants can not fly. Based on what we know now.

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"Experts in a given field simply know how to reduce their risk while maximizing their chance of creating lucrative opportunities."

Really, this is spot on. And I think maybe we don't always like to think of it that way. We like to think there is just some sort of perfection that experts acquire. It's really just very cleverly reduced risk. Even I like to think certain kinds of blunders are just beyond me -- like I'm "too good" to ever miss mate in 1. Well I recently missed a pretty nasty mate in 1 in a blitz game. And it is a possibility, however minute, to do so in a long time control game. You can't prepare for everything.

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Elubas wrote:

mdinnerspace wrote:

An absurdity can not happen.

Elephants can not fly now, nor ever.

That is what is true.

Based on what we know now, elephants can not fly. Based on what we know now.

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Now and here. What about on the moon? Could an elephant fly on the moon with a much lower gravitational pull? I suspect it may be able, but I am no physicist.

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This guy is hopeless.

'Well, what about on the moon?"

What about it? Who mentioned it?

You forgot the 1097th multiverse.

Read Rudy Rucker before discussing possibilities. He'll open your mind.