Is there any chance that a 1300 rated player can beat a 2700 rated player?

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Mauve26 wrote:
chessking1976 wrote:
Mauve26 wrote:

the answer is yes.

Sometimes you only want to "like" a comment, not reply to it.

Then you must like this comment, because you certainly did reply to it.

True

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ciarli wrote:

is there a chance of raining in the desert?

No, or it wouldn't be a desert. The chances of people actually answering this are HIGH.

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RetiFan wrote:

Of course, I'm talking about games when both players want to win.

I also don't buy %0 percent chance, because I think I can get a win against a Boris Gelfand type blunder.

Obviously, blunders can happen.  Otherwise, it becomes similar to letting a monkey type on a keyboard long enough and he'll write Romeo and Juliet.  The odds are minuscule for the 1300 player.

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MickinMD wrote:
RetiFan wrote:

Of course, I'm talking about games when both players want to win.

I also don't buy %0 percent chance, because I think I can get a win against a Boris Gelfand type blunder.

Obviously, blunders can happen.  Otherwise, it becomes similar to letting a monkey type on a keyboard long enough and he'll write Romeo and Juliet.  The odds are minuscule for the 1300 player.

Dont compare the 1300 fides with monkeys. We are much stronger than that, and the biggest difference between us and the 2200s is consistency. We do  play several games with caps-precicion score above 98,and also several games scoring below 80. Only very, very good players can beat us in our best games, but in our worst we can be taken down by much weaker players.

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DjonniDerevnja wrote:

Dont compare the 1300 fides with monkeys. We are much stronger than that, and the biggest difference between us and the 2200s is consistency. We do  play several games with caps-precicion score above 98,and also several games scoring below 80. Only very, very good players can beat us in our best games, but in our worst we can be taken down by much weaker players.

 

Scoring 98% caps in a game does not only mean we are in a great shape, it also means the position was not too hard.

 

But yeah, I agree even a 700 rated players know the rules and more or less what he is doing, so not even close to the assumptions on typing moonkeys. The idea remains the same though, it would require a huge number of tries, just a much smaller huge, one probably conceivible in a lifetime (although there are the chances that you don't stay at 1300 if you keep trying for a lifetime)

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4xel wrote:
DjonniDerevnja wrote:

Dont compare the 1300 fides with monkeys. We are much stronger than that, and the biggest difference between us and the 2200s is consistency. We do  play several games with caps-precicion score above 98,and also several games scoring below 80. Only very, very good players can beat us in our best games, but in our worst we can be taken down by much weaker players.

 

Scoring 98% caps in a game does not only mean we are in a great shape, it also means the position was not too hard.

 

But yeah, I agree even a 700 rated players know the rules and more or less what he is doing, so not even close to the assumptions on typing moonkeys. The idea remains the same though, it would require a huge number of tries, just a much smaller huge, one probably conceivible in a lifetime (although there are the chances that you don't stay at 1300 if you keep trying for a lifetime)

When we play above 98 , the position usually is easy to play for us, and very difficult for our opponents. Typical for players on my level is that we are our owns worst enemies. When playing fantastic, everybody will have difficulties against us, and when playing worse we can lose to anyone. The pity is that the fantastic games are quite rare. In most games there are mistakes and inaccuracies.  I often am steering my games, and often steering them into the ditch.

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tob1a5 wrote:

Beat them in 'what' exactly? The question is very vague.. for example it's possible for an amateur tennis player to get 1 game from Roger Federer but no chance he'll ever get a set. You need to be more specific.

 

Is Roger federer a 2700 rated player?

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If 1300 is white and 2700 is black then 1300 should play 1. E4 e5 2. Qh5

Then 1300 should ask 2700 if he  a booger under his king.  The 2700 will pick his king and look.  But 2700 forgot to say "i adjust"  and so he has to Ke7.  And then 1300 plays Qxe5

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Why no 2700 yet from Africa

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This thread has to stop. 2700 isn't just a numner, it's a level of skill that is like saying can my 14 year old daughter beat Tiger Woods in a round of golf. It's not going to happen. So let's just stop. 

 

Thanks for for all the entertaining comments... later

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tob1a5 wrote:
4xel wrote:
tob1a5 wrote:

Beat them in 'what' exactly? The question is very vague.. for example it's possible for an amateur tennis player to get 1 game from Roger Federer but no chance he'll ever get a set. You need to be more specific.

 

Is Roger federer a 2700 rated player?

Roger Federer in chess terms is more like a 3000.

 

Facts remain there is no elo rating in tennis, and roger federer is not rated 2700, or 3000 for what matters, so the question was specific enough to rule tennis players out (unless they happen to also be chess GMs or something), although not neceesarilly tennis.

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Federer will still beat the world's best tennis robot so he must be 3300+

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DJsStudio wrote:

This thread has to stop. 2700 isn't just a numner, it's a level of skill that is like saying can my 14 year old daughter beat Tiger Woods in a round of golf. It's not going to happen. So let's just stop. 

 

Thanks for for all the entertaining comments... later

 

This thread will decide when it stops.

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Ziryab wrote:
DJsStudio wrote:

This thread has to stop. 2700 isn't just a numner, it's a level of skill that is like saying can my 14 year old daughter beat Tiger Woods in a round of golf. It's not going to happen. So let's just stop. 

 

Thanks for for all the entertaining comments... later

 

This thread will decide when it stops.

It achieved self awareness with post #5106.

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DJsStudio wrote:

This thread has to stop. 2700 isn't just a numner, it's a level of skill that is like saying can my 14 year old daughter beat Tiger Woods in a round of golf. It's not going to happen. So let's just stop. 

 

Thanks for for all the entertaining comments... later

Thers a big differnce between golf and chess. 14 year old girls does have the same piecemoves available as th grandmaster. 14 year old girls does not hit the ball as long as Tiger Woods. 14 year old girls easily can move the bishop as far as Magnus Carlsen. I luckily did beat  a nine year old girl rated 1366 on thursday. She is the sister of a Norway Gnome, and has exactly the same talent. Give her a year, and she will become very dangerous to grandmasters. Beware of the cute small girls. In their supertactical brains huge danger is luring.

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the 1300 can win a blitz game if the 2700 makes an illegal move

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It's inevitable.

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It achieved self awareness with post #5106.

 

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Well, I can give my point of view.

My last FIDE rating is 1253 Elo and yesterday, on another chess site, I won against a GM who has 2554 Elo rating during a simul.

 

So, yes, it's possible but I don't think I can make it one more time right now.

 

(And I played with black pieces.)

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Travkusken wrote:

the 1300 can win a blitz game if the 2700 makes an illegal move

If were talking carlsen or nakamura then theres a fat chance of that