Okay I guess the Hogs and other animals are fed secret stuff from deceased animals, but eating animals that only eat other animals seems to be not desirable to me. If you are willing to kill, pluck, and roast a Vulture for a meal let me know.
Is trysts, trysts?
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There are no vowels in trysts. Kind of like those countries in that part of the former USSR that are not European, Armenian, Georgian, Azerbaijani...the ones near China, Mongolia, Afghanistan. Haven't really brushed up on geography since 12/31/1991.
TheGrobe wrote:
Any mammals we feed them -- pigs are omnivorous just like us. Note that we also have a history of supplementing herbivore feed with animal proteins as well, which is what led to the whole mad cow scare.
I think, actually, that we may still do this, but now largely use menhaden (fish) instead of protien from cows, sheep or pigs for cattle -- these land-based animal protiens may still be used for chicken feed, however, as there's no known human health ramifications of doing so.
On a side note, in the case of Canada's biggest serial killer/pig farmer, the mammals they ate included people.
I think there was an incident I remember hearing about a long while back where a drunken farmer type guy was walking home. He stumbled into a pig pen and passed out and supposedly the pigs ate him!
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Conquistador wrote:
If you have a problem with treatment with animals, why not try organic meats then?
I agree that the factory style conditions are pretty awful for the animals. In addition, the nutrients are diminished considerably because of the hormones in the animals. Corn is not good feed for a cow. It makes them very large, but it also is terrible for their health, and the quality of meat is much lower.
Organic meats are small farmers who raise cows on grass and natural free range. These meats are considerably better in nutritional value and they do not contain hormones. The treatment of these animals is also very good.
Organic farmers struggle making money against the factory farm system, and the FDA has gone out of its way to help big business. So why not support them by buying organic?
I didn't stop eating meat because I thought it was "healthier" for me. I stopped because I started to think on my own. I no longer understood why any animal was killed for my diet. I didn't need to eat meat to live, so why would I contribute to other people's choices of making a profit off of killing beings which I had an affinity with? None of it made sense.
I know the society I live in, is profit driven. I know that the meat industry will continue to relentlessly saturate the media with propaganda aimed solely at continuing their profits. Much like how the auto industry did not care to make electric cars, or cars that could run for hundreds of miles off of a gallon of gas. Their ability to advance was stopped solely for profit.
I also know that people have a difficult time about both understanding their freedom, and changing their mind, so there are many people adding to the propaganda-for-profit industries, which would like nothing better than to see people supporting their immoral way they make money.
And since morality is an idea, like freedom, which is a life-long endeavor to think about and learn, I choose to try to do so.
This part is absolutely wrong. GM made fuel efficient cars that are similar to the European compacts, but nobody bought them!
Electric cars have been made that go 100 miles per charge. The are two problems with electric cars. Until there is a shift to buy much more electric cars, the price will not come down. The cost of producing electric cars is extremely expensive. In addition, their efficiency is much lower than unleaded, and even lower than ethanol.
For all the talk about how the American people think that GM should build more high gas mileage cars, nobody wanted to buy them! They went and bought the lower mileage SUVs or trucks instead of these alternatives. A company is going to build more SUVs and trucks then the electric cars and compacts because that is what makes more money. If they devoted more money to electric cars and compacts, people would instead buy the Ford's, Chrysler's, or the other car companies. This in turn would cause GM to lose much more money.
Now vehicles have been built that have 100mpg gas mileage. The only issue is that they do not meet the government crash test safety ratings. For each safety component or piece of metal you add to increase safety, you lose gas mileage considerably due to the added weight. It is a trade-off; there is only so much efficiency you can squeeze out of the system. The government has been trying to push laws that make the minimum gas mileage would be 30 mpg, but also meet the crash test ratings. It simply cannot be done with the vehicles Americans are buying. Unless there is a major shift, there is little GM can do.
Now the government went and threw $800 billion to save the stock market, but GM has to beg to barely get $10 billion. Later it was upped to $17 billion. But politicians have been using the Auto Industry as a scapegoat for their mismanagement with the stock market bailout. In addition, the government puts in a car czar who puts back the bureaucratic structure that GM tried to get rid of to save the company. Politicians are not businessmen! I don't think they realized how crucial it was to bailout the Auto Industry. It would have survived Chrysler going down, but if Ford or GM collapsed, it would drag the entire industry down.
I feel your analogy to the Auto Industry was not accurate.
dannyhume wrote:
There are no vowels in trysts. Kind of like those countries in that part of the former USSR that are not European, Armenian, Georgian, Azerbaijani...the ones near China, Mongolia, Afghanistan. Haven't really brushed up on geography since 12/31/1991.
What the hell are you talking about no vowels in trysts. There are words like Why, By, Try, Fry, Fly, Ply, Shy, Sly, that are all words with a vowel. Try coming up some more on your own.
Y isn't a vowel. There are no vowels in dysrhythms.
And which grandmaster made a fuel-efficient car? I know lots are good at engineering and computer science, all that Deep Blue stuff, etc.
Y is a vowel you Numbnut, no English word can exist with out a vowel. Look it up. When I was in school long ago we we told "Vowels are A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y"
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Conquistador wrote:
This part is absolutely wrong. GM made fuel efficient cars that are similar to the European compacts, but nobody bought them!
Electric cars have been made that go 100 miles per charge. The are two problems with electric cars. Until there is a shift to buy much more electric cars, the price will not come down. The cost of producing electric cars is extremely expensive. In addition, their efficiency is much lower than unleaded, and even lower than ethanol.
For all the talk about how the American people think that GM should build more high gas mileage cars, nobody wanted to buy them! They went and bought the lower mileage SUVs or trucks instead of these alternatives. A company is going to build more SUVs and trucks then the electric cars and compacts because that is what makes more money. If they devoted more money to electric cars and compacts, people would instead buy the Ford's, Chrysler's, or the other car companies. This in turn would cause GM to lose much more money.
Now vehicles have been built that have 100mpg gas mileage. The only issue is that they do not meet the government crash test safety ratings. For each safety component or piece of metal you add to increase safety, you lose gas mileage considerably due to the added weight. It is a trade-off; there is only so much efficiency you can squeeze out of the system. The government has been trying to push laws that make the minimum gas mileage would be 30 mpg, but also meet the crash test ratings. It simply cannot be done with the vehicles Americans are buying. Unless there is a major shift, there is little GM can do.
Now the government went and threw $800 billion to save the stock market, but GM has to beg to barely get $10 billion. Later it was upped to $17 billion. But politicians have been using the Auto Industry as a scapegoat for their mismanagement with the stock market bailout. In addition, the government puts in a car czar who puts back the bureaucratic structure that GM tried to get rid of to save the company. Politicians are not businessmen! I don't think they realized how crucial it was to bailout the Auto Industry. It would have survived Chrysler going down, but if Ford or GM collapsed, it would drag the entire industry down.
I feel your analogy to the Auto Industry was not accurate.
The poor auto industry. They tried to sell electric cars, but no one wanted to buy them! They tried to make cars that get 100mpg, but the dumb safety regulations just make it too difficult! The auto industry is trying to help, but no ones helping the auto industry, including the government which won't give them enough bailout money!
I am so far from agreeing with you on any point in your post. My point in the analogy was that propaganda, which you willingly repeat, dismisses any notion of cutting out the oil industry from profits. Therefore, we are constantly fed BS because some people actually believe it! In 1908 the Model T was getting about 30mpg, and a hundred years later, the average mpg is about 25.
That's a bunch of tree-hugging hippie garbage.
We don't say that "b" is "sometimes a consonant and sometimes completely absent", as in the words "numbnut", "dumbarse", or Krabbe's disease (the 2nd "b").
The name "vowel" is often used for the symbols that represent vowel sounds in a language's writing system, particularly if the language uses an alphabet. In writing systems based on the Latin alphabet, the letters A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y are all used to represent vowels.
What a retard.
He's right... this Y entity needs to pick a side and quit sitting on the fence.
Ah yes...the ultimate fight as to what makes a vowel a vowel...anatomy or function?
Great wiki link, kupov3.
I stand my ground in this great country which starts and ends with a vowel (the cars could be made a little better though).
shhhhh
From the wiki article...
"There are also some truly vowelless interjections and onomatopoeia which do not contain Y or R."
So now "R" is also claiming to be a vowel sometimes?!
grrrrrrrrrr
One thing's for certain, though: they aren't dairy.
Don't start up with him, we just got him back.
I'd actually assumed it couldn't possibly be the same person untless he was branded Kupov4 -- I was just checking.