Isin't resigning being a sore loser?

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@ #64 i found the solution to the resign. I just had to read what was being said carefully. He painted a perfect picture of how to get that Resign and not have to mate your opponent!

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I do not like it when my opponent resigns (I like the winning part, but I also like figuring out the win).  Sometimes opponent resigns and I am not sure I would have been able to turn it into the win.

I practice mates in 2, mates in 3, mates in 4 etc. so it would be nice to actually do those in real life instead of the game being over before I can.



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If my opponent resign i do not care about the what ifs. let them take care of themselves. That tally of wins in Team Matches is what i look at and want to see we won. I have more respect for an opponent that resigns in a situation with mate coming. With nothing on the line why continue?

What is going to start to happpen is players will start playing moves to avoid mate and find ways to humilate their opponents leading to trash talk on both sides. Either way this not resigning is going to stop. Get humilated enough times with your opponent toyin with you and it will end. The option to go their coach and tell them to cut it out is not present with the threat of them not playin in future games. The reson for laying done the king, a class act.

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I think resigning is perfectly reasonable if you are destined to lose. If you do something stupid or your opponent does something smart, if you have a busy schedule, I don't see the point in sitting there watching your opponent mate you if you could be doing something more productive.

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blake78613 wrote:
You might as well, since you are making it up as you go along.  There certainly has been grandmaster games where one side has two Queens on the board and the other side rightfully went on and won.  For instance, Karpov - Kortchnoi, Dortmund 1994.

In that position the one who probably considered resigning was white, not black: material is equal, and black has a crushing positional advantage.

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If a game is in a position where it is basicly already decided I would rather resign if I'm down or have my opponent resign so we can move on to a game that isn't already decided.  Maybe start a new game with that same player.  It seems to me to just be a waste of time to continue a game that is really over except for the checkmate.  I feel that resigning is a sign of respect for an opponent's ability and not a sign of being a sore loser.

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How much time are we wasting on a three move mate? Unless you are purposely letting time run out to be annoying, which has nothing to do with resigning. If playing another a couple extra minutes ruins your chess schedule maybe you should stick to bullet.

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blueemu wrote:

Many players feel just the opposite: that dragging out a hopelessly lost game is poor sportsmanship.  Different strokes for different folks.

Yep....dragging out a hopelessly lost position is considered bad manners among good players, resign and start a new game rather than waste time. It's generally n00Bs that think they gotta play to checkmate. 

Avatar of SunConure

I almost hate to say this because it will probably sound harsher than I intend it to but I think that it is bad sportsmanship to insist on trying to ride an opponent into the ground after he has already admitted that he's lost is bad sportsmanship.  If I think there is any chance I can win I won't resign, but if I'm beaten, then I'm beaten and if I admit to that it shows my opponent respect in their game and their ability.  I think it takes more class to admit defeat than to waste another player's time when I have no chance of providing them with a good contest.  Also, I'm not referring to a 3 move to checkmate game.  I'm referring to being maybe 10 to 15 moves out but the end is inevitible.

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I resign only when I have no more counterplay. I.e. the game becomes boring to play.

If I see I'm losing, but I still have stuff to do and the position is interesting I will play on.

 

I don't understand the attitude on here that it would be "wasting time" playing a game the result of which is already known. By that reasoning I guess playing with somebody much better than you would be "wasting time" from the start.

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I apologize for using the phrase waste of time.  You have shown me the light.  From now on I will play every game to the last piece and never resign and cheat my opponent out of that "I just totally destroyed you" feeling no matter hopelessly locked up my position is or the game is.  I seriously don't want to offend my opponent.  I am still new to this format of chess and I never realized that people would take me admitting defeat as such a slap in the face.  I guess it is more fun for some players to continue to play a game they have already won than to move on to one that still has the potential to go either way.  Before I always considered resigning as bowing to my opponent, not offending him.  I really do apologize to all that I have offended by resigning.

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varelse1 wrote:

Resigning is the honorable thing to do.

It is 9-year-olds and no-lifers who drag a dead lost game on and on just to annoy their opponent.

So true.Ive waited days while a few players have stalled when it was inevitable.
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Most times, if I find myself in a lost position, I'll resign.

There are times, if I'm in unfamiliar territory, when it appears that I'll probably lose that I'll play a game out to see where it leads in order to learn something.  I'll, usually, apologize for dragging things out; or, sometimes, I'll even message during the game that I want to see where it leads.

That's because most of us have better things to do with our time than wait around while one's opponent waits for a miracle.  That's especially true if your's is the last game in a tourney section with 3 to advance and you're to be one of the three.  Then everybody seems to get anxious.

However, as long as someone is running on their clock, whether they should resign or not is up to them.  And, if we both learn something out of it, even if only patience, it may be worth the wait.

Avatar of cartmankyle

I personally believe that before making each move, a player must always have an agonized look on his/her face, as though constipated. It is easier this way if he/she chooses to resign.

Avatar of 12TimesADayMan

I can resign only 12 times a day. No more. 

Avatar of plutonia

I'm gonna make a T-shirt and sell it in front of a tournament hall:

 

 

I can only resign one game a day. Today is not your day.

Tomorrow doesn't look too good either.

Avatar of Pat_Zerr

I see resigning as saying, "OK, I blundered and know I'm going to lose this game, so no need to drag out the inevitable.  Let's end the game, you won, I lost."

Funny with all the "why won't they resign?" posts here comes one saying, "If someone resigns aren't they a sore loser?"

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cartmankyle wrote:

I personally believe that before making each move, a player must always have an agonized look on his/her face, as though constipated. It is easier this way if he/she chooses to resign.

Laughing  Clearly, a well thought out reply, and one of the better posts, above.

Thank You, and Welcome to the Site.

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Roundyracer stem
varelse1 wrote:

Resigning is the honorable thing to do.

It is 9-year-olds and no-lifers who drag a dead lost game on and on just to annoy their opponent.

So true.Ive waited days while a few players have stalled when it was inevitable.

that depends on how certain the win is. I have played OTB against a player he was rated 300 more than me. he was up a queen. but I still had something I wanted to try. He was certain that he was winning maybe it was the reason I could mate him with a tactic with a rook and a pawn. He did not see it. As Josh Waitzkin said it "if you are on the edge of winning you are also on the edge of losing the win"
OTB I have seen a lot of positions I thought was losing only to hear people won or got a draw.
in some situations I think we cannot evaluate correct to say a position is losing. chess is a humans game and humans made errors - on both sides - and the last one to make a blunder loses. not the first one who blunders a piece....
having said that I think with experience you can tell yourself when you want to resign and when you feel there is something to play for. of course resigning in a position that could have been saved feels kind of dumb. even grandmasters have resigned in winning positions.

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Inevitability is logical only to those who recognize the position to be so.  I admit, sometimes I'm a village idiot where logic eludes me, and pride takes over.  However, it's those few games that I've managed a win under significant material deficits that keeps me going, much like the occasional 300 yard drive down the fairway keeps me hackin' n wackin' on the golf course.  Not that I'm "out to annoy" or anything, although I still recognize etiquette to let better players play through, so for the most part I'll resign when I find there's nothing left to learn from the game.