The OPs question was if he had a board set up and made the moves of the game:
incantevoleutopia wrote:
hi . is it cheating if i play on line and have also the phisical bord of chess and pieces...and i move according to the game right in front of me??
"move according to the game in front of me"
He said nothing about analysis. It would just be mimicking the display on the screen. All of this talk about analyzing and moving pieces has nothing to do wth the original question.
The OPs question was if he had a board set up and made the moves of the game:
incantevoleutopia wrote:
hi . is it cheating if i play on line and have also the phisical bord of chess and pieces...and i move according to the game right in front of me??
"move according to the game in front of me"
He said nothing about analysis. It would just be mimicking the display on the screen. All of this talk about analyzing and moving pieces has nothing to do wth the original question.
Ah, come on, we all know what he meant.
Great! Now I am right alongside those who use chess software to cheat.All because I like to use a USB Chessboard. I suppose DGT and Novag chessboards should be outlawed because they could be used for cheating.I guess even when I play against the computer with my usb board I am technically cheating against the engine.Incredible! I just use a board to save my eyesight from the screen and because it is nice playing on a real board.Oh well,I will get over it in a couple of days.
Incorrect. You can calculate out positions that are way more complicated if you have a solid medium to test them in. There's no need to keep the position in your head, like there is in normal chess.
While I agree on that, I still fail to see how it would give an advantage. Testing is a wrong word in this situation, because you don't get any response, feedback, evaluation or results from the board.
Your understanding won't become deeper, nor would you make less mistakes.
In fact, as others pointed out, if anything, this might even make you a worse player in terms of visualisation.
Using an engine is cheating, because the engine is smarter than you are, your chess board isn't.
Also, in tournament you can't erase your move, once you've written it down. Is it cheating if I write my moves down(while playing on chess.com) and then erase them? Ludicrous.
You can't compare tournament rules to online rules. If you thought it was cheating to use a board, you were wrong, and, it's time to move on.
I stand in awe of your obdurance gentlemen, but you're right; it's time to move on.
Also, in tournament you can't erase your move, once you've written it down. Is it cheating if I write my moves down(while playing on chess.com) and then erase them? Ludicrous.
You can't compare tournament rules to online rules. If you thought it was cheating to use a board, you were wrong, and, it's time to move on.
yes yes, time to move on for sure. but you are the ones that are wrong, just saying.
Troll thread, Everyone gets that it is cheating to move the pieces around. Even GM's that can play blindfolded on multiple boards gain an advantage by being able to change the position at will to aid calculation.
Clowns that are using this method will note that if you did this over the board it would count as an automatic loss. The internet is full of scum and people do worse (like using engines)
so it just goes back to what I said earlier.
Might be surprised how good at chess you are face to face.
Troll thread
your father is a troll, idiot
I imagine no one would fault their opponent for having a board in front of them to input the moves played as long as they did not touch it otherwise. (esp for longer time control games like 45 45)
People who ask this question are interested in sparking the conversation, and understand the point about fair play completely.
Troll thread, Everyone gets that it is cheating to move the pieces around. Even GM's that can play blindfolded on multiple boards gain an advantage by being able to change the position at will to aid calculation.
Clowns that are using this method will note that if you did this over the board it would count as an automatic loss. The internet is full of scum and people do worse (like using engines)
so it just goes back to what I said earlier.
Might be surprised how good at chess you are face to face.
pretty sure you are talking about how they would be completly lost in OTB. which brings me to a point...
i played someone otb at school at lunch in the library today. he was pretty good, and gave me a good challenge. it was a close game until he picked up the wrong (a pawn move he shouldn't have made). i was alright with him taking it back, but he insisted on sticking to it and following the correct rules of play. this kind of integrity is what leads to one becoming a truely strong player.
if you play with just as much integrity online as he played with at a meaningless, unscored game at school. bravo.
if you choose not to play with integrity, you are mostly hurting yourself, and what else should we expect from the internet.
i am untracking this thread now. if you have a problem with what i said, feel free to PM me, and we can have a civil discussion. otherwise, good day.
My fault for calling you a troll, I saw this Joker Big king bud and assumed that was who started the thread.
My fault for calling you a troll, I saw this Joker Big king bud and assumed that was who started the thread.
A major problem with these threads; they often grow so quickly, you get loads of people picking-up the convo 1/2 way through and making silly comments.
I've had a good chuckle watching this thread. I especially like how the OP's original question has been twisted into something much different than its intention.
I already said I have eye problem so It easier for me to study my big wooden board ... i said ACCORDING to game...so NO analizis at all, besides...that would not help me but ok
Like others have said, even without an eye problem I dont think people fault you for using a physical board in that manner
As calculation keeps being brought up... isn't calculation merely a crutch for people who haven't seen enough positons to know what to do without calculating it (by calculating I man guessing, unless they are calculating every possible line out to the end of the game).
Does anyone think their ability to calculate would stand any comparison to a Lomonosov Endgame Tablebase that just "knows" whether a move is right or not (admittedly they can only handle 7 man endings at the moment, and some 7 man endings have been omitted).
Incorrect. You can calculate out positions that are way more complicated if you have a solid medium to test them in. There's no need to keep the position in your head, like there is in normal chess.