it is cheating if play with bord?

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Murgen wrote:

As calculation keeps being brought up... isn't calculation merely a crutch for people who haven't seen enough positons to know what to do without calculating it

Yeah, good players have seen 10^50 positions so they don't need to calculate.

Consequently there are no good players like that.

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its only cheating if your using a computer to cover for your lack of skills

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Like lack of calculation skills for example, when you use an analysis board to cheat.

Or using a book or database for lack of memory.

Or hey, having your friend play a few moves for you.

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This site gives us the option to have an analysis board. It is not powered by engines. Where is the cheating?

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bgianis wrote:

This site gives us the option to have an analysis board. It is not powered by engines. Where is the cheating?

We are discussing live chess.

What you are referring to is 'Online Chess' which, of course, is Chess.com's version of correspondance chess. Where you are allowed to use an analysis board.

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It is not enough for cheaters that they can safely cheat by using a side board to move the pieces around.They also want us to believe that this is not cheating!pathetic...

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will you all stop please AND STICK TO THE TOPIC?????????? stop mind-masturbating

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incantevoleutopia wrote:

will you all stop please AND STICK TO THE TOPIC?????????? stop mind-masturbating

For an avid masturbator such as yourself,who writes "bord",and "phisical",we are doing you a great favor to respond to your thread.Get a life megatroll!Smile

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So the point of forums is that a random member comes and starts offending people .... ok

get off, apotrash

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Wha's a "bord"?

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incantevoleutopia wrote:

BoARD!! OK???? board!!!!!!!!! fuck close this thread, im sick of it

If you click the Tracking COmments, you won't get any more notices.

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leiph18 wrote:
BigKingBud wrote:

You can't compare tournament rules to online rules. If you thought everyone else wasn't using a board to 'move the pieces around', that's just your own innocence.  A sad, ignorant, innocence.  The kind that get's squashed by the OBVIOUS reality, that unless your online opponent(on chess.com) is using an engine, they are NOT cheating! 

For example chess.com provides analysis boards in online but not live. It has nothing to do with tournament rules. It's just one of those common sense things... that it's not in the spirit of the game. It may not be written anywhere but only cheaters check for loopholes like that

This would be a good troll topic up there with how pre moves are illegal.

It's not cheating, in ANY sense of the word(sense or spirit).  If you wanna live out the fantasy in your head, that is your choice.  But, quit calling me a cheater, it is offensive, and incorrect.

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From my POV, the fantasy is in your head.

We can agree to disagree though.

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Could you guys (BKB and Leiph) remind us if you are talking about Live Chess or, the incorrectly named, Online Chess?

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Live chess.

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Leiph is obviously right, but your not going to stop idiots like big king bud from cheating. Just be happy knowing that you would crush this guy face to face.

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Yeah, if you BOTH are actually talking about Live chess, I would say moving the pieces around is not in the correct spirit of fair play. In fact, if I found out someone was doing that, I would probably be inclined to call them a cheater.

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JGambit wrote:

Leiph is obviously right, but your not going to stop idiots like big king bud from cheating. Just be happy knowing that you would crush this guy face to face.

I think this is the best attitude toward cheaters.

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Its just another reason not to use any game longer then 3 minute (and smart people can even create programs for short games) for comparision purposes.

Really long games are much more fun in person. Its frusterating to know that its hit a miss to know if you are getting a fair fight online.