I expected this outcome.However from now on will be harder to enforce the antidoping laws.
Ivanchuck Doping Hearing
I also expected this outcome and believe any other outcome would have been ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as the contrived "reasoning" given here.
I also expected this outcome and believe any other outcome would have been ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as the contrived "reasoning" given here.
I strongly believe that Ivanchuk was "clean".But we must now think that under this FIDE resolution anyone can refuse to take the doping test.
What is contrived? There is no evidence that Ivanchuk knew that he was being asked to submit to a doping test.
What is contrived? There is no evidence that Ivanchuk knew that he was being asked to submit to a doping test.
He knew......there were people following him around trying to get him to pee in a cup , dont kid yourself. I knew something like this would happen if it concerned one of the "stars" of chess. If Ivanchuk isnt punished its an injustice to ALL who were in the past and is an outrage. It states that the "stars" are not treated like everyone else , even where the rules are concerned. This is NOT good for chess.
What is contrived? There is no evidence that Ivanchuk knew that he was being asked to submit to a doping test.
He knew......there were people following him around trying to get him to pee in a cup , dont kid yourself. I knew something like this would happen if it concerned one of the "stars" of chess. If Ivanchuk isnt punished its an injustice to ALL who were in the past and is an outrage. It states that the "stars" are not treated like everyone else , even where the rules are concerned. This is NOT good for chess.
Absolutely!FIDE lost all power to enforce the antidoping law.Everyone can feel free to take some doping and when asked to submit the test..just punch some walls and kick a couple of doors..pretend you are angry with your game..you should escape.Seriously,another blunder by FIDE.
So if Chucky isn't clean, what do you think is in him? Also, does anyone know the list of banned substances?
So if Chucky isn't clean, what do you think is in him? Also, does anyone know the list of banned substances?
Matter here isn t if he was clean or not.He had to suffer consequences for not taking the test.
What is contrived? There is no evidence that Ivanchuk knew that he was being asked to submit to a doping test.
He knew......there were people following him around trying to get him to pee in a cup , dont kid yourself. I knew something like this would happen if it concerned one of the "stars" of chess. If Ivanchuk isnt punished its an injustice to ALL who were in the past and is an outrage. It states that the "stars" are not treated like everyone else , even where the rules are concerned. This is NOT good for chess.
I agree that it is unjust to those that have been punished, but nothing about doping is good for chess. It's not against the rules to load up on sashimi, which is one of the few "substances" that might conceivably improve performance.
Perhaps it takes a "star" to "just say no" to drug testing, and a technicality to bring some sanity to the process.
Nearly everything FIDE does weakens its authority.
FIDE politics at work as usual. This is NOT good for chess. Was he guilty and nearly caught for a substance, or just a primo uomo above the rules? We'll probably never know.
Trying to get chess in the Olympics is a huge waste of time and money, IMO. How many thousands of chess sets, books, CDs, and tournament and coaching support could be distributed around the world instead? The long term benefit to the game would be much greater.
What is contrived? There is no evidence that Ivanchuk knew that he was being asked to submit to a doping test.
We're supposed to believe he is that stupid? C'mon! All of the initial onsite reports indicated that they did everything to get the test done but take him into custody. He simply refused, and by the rules should have been banned.
I fail to see how a chess player could improve his performance by taking drugs. The case could be made that you might increase stamina through substances such as caffeen, but banning caffeen would be ridiculous.
Leave Chucky alone. 20 years ago he was #3 and still #3. You can't require an artist to pee in the bottle, he is an artist. He is not a sprinter, swimmer, etc., he just plays chess, that's all he can do and he does it well, so we, poor patzers, can learn something from his games. Maybe he ate a piece of chocolate, don't know what else can improve your performance in chess. I am glad FIDE realized all that, later better than never.
I fail to see how a chess player could improve his performance by taking drugs. The case could be made that you might increase stamina through substances such as caffeen, but banning caffeen would be ridiculous.
From what I can find, caffeine is listed as a banned substance if concentration in urine is greater than 12 micrograms per millilitre.
Edit: Also, things such as ephedrine can be used as a concentration aid. I'm not saying chess is getting into the olympics, I'm simply saying that there are some cases where drugs may actually help players.
"Wijk aan Zee (NED), January 21, 2009
Drug testing is still relatively rare in chess. However, it does occur in various official events and was carried out during the course of the Dresden Olympiad. Unfortunately, a high proportion of the tests were scheduled during the last round and there was a lack of personnel, which lead to a procedural error: there was not a designated Doping Control Officer present at this match (USA v Ukraine).
After losing a crucial game for his country, Mr Ivanchuk was distraught. The Hearing Panel concludes that although the arbiter attempted to inform Mr Ivanchuk in English that he should accompany him for a doping test, Mr Ivanchuk apparently failed to understand the instructions, especially since English is not Mr Ivanchuk’s first language. If there had been a Doping Control Officer present, he would have immediately gone to Mr Ivanchuk’s board and there would have been communication between him and Mr Ivanchuk. In that case the outcome might have been different. Because there was no notification by the Doping Control officer, there was no refusal in the sense of the regulations.
The Conclusion:
The procedural error allied with Mr Ivanchuk’s state of mind led him unintentionally to miss the test. The Hearing Panel therefore concludes unanimously that there should be no penalty."
lol... just... LOL