Fischer came specially to Japan to meet and talk with Karpov.
Bobby said -Yes! about their future Match, when Kampomanes was been nearby, and -No! No!, when they were along... He was been nor Ready to play...
Fischer came specially to Japan to meet and talk with Karpov.
Bobby said -Yes! about their future Match, when Kampomanes was been nearby, and -No! No!, when they were along... He was been nor Ready to play...
No!
Kampomanes organised some surprised meeting in Japan just to try to make a Chess History!
He invited separately Karpov and Fisher in, and they made a Dinner at Hilton for a few hours talk...
Fantastic article in the June Chess Life. The quote that struck me the most was at the end where Karpov states..."he (Fischer) probably was one of the most famous American citizens, even if he didn't live all those years in the United States. He was one of the most famous, maybe Kennedy, Fischer, Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe. Even now, I know for sure in Russia if you asked people, they would say Fischer."
I'd like to hear from some of the non-Americans out there (especially from Russia). Do you agree that Fischer is (or was) one of the most famous American citizens (on a par with Kennedy, Elvis, and Marily Monroe)? This surprises me...
I came to USA from Russia!
So, I can confirm it! Fisher was been #1 from America!
Most of us doesn't knew too much about Kenedy, Presli, Monroe by simple reason:
we lived behind a bar, wall...
Our Information was been very limited and 'organised' at anything, where Communist Party can even rule...
Fantastic article in the June Chess Life. The quote that struck me the most was at the end where Karpov states..."he (Fischer) probably was one of the most famous American citizens, even if he didn't live all those years in the United States. He was one of the most famous, maybe Kennedy, Fischer, Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe. Even now, I know for sure in Russia if you asked people, they would say Fischer."
I'd like to hear from some of the non-Americans out there (especially from Russia). Do you agree that Fischer is (or was) one of the most famous American citizens (on a par with Kennedy, Elvis, and Marily Monroe)? This surprises me...
I live in Sweden, the northwest part of Europe, and Elvis, Kennedy etc are by far the most famous, but you can't compare west Europe to the old eastern block at all.
So my post where probably not necessary.
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an article (PDF) published in 2004 on the Chesscafe website Susan Polgar wrote: "I spoke to Boris Spassky about this same issue and he believes that Bobby would have won in 1975, but that Anatoly would have won the rematch."
Contrary, I believe that Karpov may Won VS Fisher at 1975 Match! And Fisher decided not to play at any cost, just to not to be defeated! He doesn't had a Winning Key VS Karpov!
And Fisher's Mentality was been already on 'orange zone', at that time!
He was unable to organise good training... He spent too much time out of Chess, at Church, at other aspects of famous star life...
He lost a Power Chess Focus! He tried to mobilise oneself, but his Fortune turn away of him, and doesn't provide him a necessary Power to achieve new great goal, again!
No Power, No Movement and Results!
Russians versus Fischer by Dmitry Plisetsky and Sergey Voronkov (Everyman Chess, 2005), “After Reykjavik”, pp.418-419:::
Korchnoi: “Was Fischer right in demanding that the world title be protected by a two-point handicap – that the challenger would be considered the winner with a 10-8 score and that the champion would retain his title in the event of a 9-9 draw? Yes, this was quite natural: the champion deserves this, not to mention the fact that further play to the first win in the event of an even score would be nothing short of a lottery – the winner in that case could not claim to have won a convincing victory. (Besides Fischer was guided by an historic precedent: in the Alekhine-Capablanca match with a score of 5.5 the Cuban would have retained his world title, whereas the challenger needed to score six wins!—the authors.)
“The genius Fischer was not given the chance to defend his title by this rejection of a two-point handicap. What followed was that the Soviets later adopted Fischer’s idea of an unlimited match instead of a match of 24 games. But instead of the two-point handicap, they protected Karpov far more reliably and far more ruthlessly with respect to the challenger – by insisting on a return match!”
Bronstein: “Fischer had the right to play the match with Karpov on his own conditions. In this question I am completely on his side! When he said that with a score of 9-9 the match should end, he was absolutely right. In American this sounds roughly as follows: ‘Do you want to be champion, buddy? Ok. If you win ten games against me, you’re the champion. But if I win nine against you, will you calm down?’”
Alburt: “Karpov always took a sober view of what he was capable of. He knew he could hardly draw a game with Fischer, never mind score one or two wins. His only chance was to disrupt the match. So a whole arsenal of tricks was worked out, designed to upset the sensitive American, unaccustomed to such methods. As Karpov himself said, ‘This match cannot end normally. Either I’ll be taken to hospital (Anatoly weighed only 48kg at the time and even at the end of his Moscow match with Korchnoi he required pep pills to keep him going) or else he’ll be taken to a lunatic asylum.’
“As a result, the USSR (and Karpov) received the coveted title. It all did indeed end in a scandal. Fischer was incensed by FIDE’s rejection of his proposal that in the event of a 9-9 score the champion should retain his title. It was a mattcher of principle: Fischer insisted on retaining the traditional privilege of all champions, but the Federation clearly supported the challenger. It is interesting that Karpov, on becoming champion, secured much great privileges for himself.”
Kasparov: “Would the historic meeting of the rivals in the world title match have ever taken place, had FIDE accepted Fischer’s last condition? This is highly doubtful. It is not just a matter of Fischer’s seclusion. ‘There is now no reason to be nervous,’ Karpov said soon after the FIDE congress. ‘There was reason for concern before the extraordinary congress, when I could assume that it might accept absolutely all of Fischer’s demands. If that had happened, I simply would not have had the moral right to play the match.’”
Russians versus Fischer by Dmitry Plisetsky and Sergey Voronkov (Everyman Chess, 2005), “After Reykjavik”, pp.418-419
This is a Paradise World!
America just beat own Champion Fischer at Pasadena Jail, Kick him out of own Great Country, request his International Arrest for Not-paying Taxes for the Match, that was even prohibited and boycotted by USA at first place.
And ##Arrest## happened... at Japan!
America is wondering why Fischer doesn't like it World Order?
What wrong with Fischer's mentality?
Just Paradise!
At 07:32 AM 3/31/99 -0500, Howard Goldowsky ( howard.goldowsky@analog.com ) wrote:
"Why would you want to reinstate Fischer, someone who is a self-proclaimed US law breaker? Aren't there plenty of other good chess players in the US who are infinitely more charismatic than Fischer, who with the help of some creativity, can promote chess?
"Thanks
"Howard Goldowsky"
My answer was:
I have studied the law in great detail and his playing a chess match with Boris Spassky in Yugoslavia in 1992 broke no law.
If that match did break the law, then all of the officers of the United States Chess Federation need to go to jail because the USCF purchased more than $500,000 worth of chess books from Yugoslavia during that time period (after receiving an "opinion of counsel" that it was all right to do so).
As far as I know, Bobby Fischer is the only person ever to have been criminally charged with violating sanctions against Yugoslavia on the basis of an "Executive Order" by President George Bush. The charges against Fischer are obviously absurd and ridiculous and without basis in law.
The question is whether Fischer should be shunned merely because of his political views, views which many consider to be offensive and objectionable. My answer to that question is "no".
In answer to your other question, no, there is nobody else in America who has promoted chess and who can promote chess the way that Bobby Fischer can and did. We are still Searching for another Bobby Fischer. We have never found one and probably never will.
One must also take into consideration the fact that Bobby Fischer more than any other American is credited with bringing down Communism. The fact that he alone virtually without help could defeat the entire Soviet chess machine is often cited by former Soviets as demonstrating that their system did not work and must be abolished.
What did this man to do to deserve this? What crime did he commit?
The answer: Bobby Fischer played a much publicized match for the World Chess Championship against Boris Spassky in Yugoslavia in 1992 for a total purse of five million dollars. For this and for this alone, the United States Government under the George Bush administration, yes that same President George Bush who refused to take Baghdad when he had it in his hands for fear of destabilizing the regime of Saddam Hussein, issued a warrant for the arrest of Bobby Fischer. Fischer has been pursued like a dog ever since.
George Bush was so stupid that he thought Saddam Hussein was going to voluntarily step down and resign after losing the war and that there was absolutely no need for US troops to occupy Baghdad, even though the entire Iraqi Army was on the border with Kuwait and the only military force inside Iraq at that time was the US Army. That same moron President George Bush decided that Bobby Fischer had committed a crime for doing nothing more than playing a chess match in Yugoslavia for money.
We, the chess players of the world, owe everything we have to Bobby Fischer: our lives, our fortunes, our sacred honor. Before Bobby Fischer won the world chess championship by defeating Boris Spassky in Iceland in 1972, the United States Chess Federation had less than 5,000 members. By the end of 1972, it had more than 70,000 members. Every mother suddenly wanted her little kid to be just like Bobby Fischer. The Search for the next Bobby Fischer had begun.
Chess masters gave up their jobs washing dishes in dirty restaurants and suddenly found themselves in great demand as highly-paid teachers of chess. Shelby Lyman, a professional book thief and minor master who could barely hold a 2250 rating, became a celebrity and was nominated for the Emmy Award. According to the general public, the three greatest chess players in the world were Bobby Fischer, Boris Spassky and Shelby Lyman.
We now play chess with the "Fischer Clock". When we go to the movies, we watch "Searching for Bobby Fischer". The award for "Best Chess Book of the Year" went to a book entitled "The Bobby Fischer I knew and other stories", even though inside only a few sentences in the book were actually about Fischer. If you want to attract attention in chess, you need to invoke the name Bobby Fischer. No other name will do it.
Yet, for all these years, Bobby Fischer lived in poverty. He lived for years in a neighborhood in Brooklyn where few white men dared to walk. (I went by the place a few weeks ago, but I did so in the daytime, not at night). He also lived for years in a 5x8 cubical in the YMCA on 34th Street in New York City.
Meanwhile, his books were plagiarized and copied and translated into many languages of the world. Not a dime in royalties was paid to Fischer. Grandmasters of chess re-wrote his notes, claiming their notes to be Fischer's, and left pieces hanging and put kings into check, and claimed that mates existed which were not there, all along claiming that Fischer had written this.
In 1992, he was offered a way out. He was invited to play a re-match against Spassky in Yugoslavia for five million dollars. He would have been a fool not to accept this offer.
The match against Spassky did not violate any law. In addition, "sporting events" were exempted from the sanctions. A chess match is clearly a "sporting event."
It is true that "commercial contacts" with Yugoslavia were forbidden by the Executive Order of President Bush (but not by any law). A typical example of a commercial contract which was actually forbidden by this order was the importation of $500,000 worth of chess books by the United States Chess Federation from Yugoslavia during that exact time period. In order to sanitize this deal, the United States Chess Federation, after paying for half of the books, made a deal with the Yugoslavs that it would receive shipment of the books now but would not pay for them until the war was over and sanctions had been lifted.
Later, after the war was temporarily over and sanctions had been lifted, the USCF decided that it was illegal to buy the books after all, and therefore refused to pay the balance owed to the Yugoslavs, which was $235,000, even though the USCF had long since received the books and sold them.
This created great controversy. However, Michael Cavallo, who took over as Executive Director of the USCF in 1997, informed me that the first thing he did when he got into office was to pay the debt which was justly due to the Yugoslavs for their books.
The USCF is an organization with 85,000 members. As such, the USCF should have some political clout. One reason why the USCF does not have any political clout is that the members of the USCF are denied the right to vote. Only a carefully selected closed group of 454 "voting members" are allowed to vote. Therefore, no political figure is going to pay attention to the wishes of the President of the United States Chess Federation, because he knows that the President of the USCF only represents those 454 insiders who are allowed to vote.
President Nixon publicly pardoned and ordered the release of Jimmy Hoffa from prison, even though everybody knew that Hoffa was guilty of a crime, because Hoffa had influence in the Teamsters Union, the largest single union in America.
Bobby Fischer, a man who is not remotely guilty of anything, should receive the support of the United States Chess Federation. We should all be demanding that the utterly baseless criminal indictment of Bobby Fischer be dropped.
Sam Sloan
Holding a Criminal Term
Grand Jury Sworn on October 29, 1991
UNITED STATES of AMERICA
vs.
ROBERT JAMES FISCHER
Violation 50 USC ��1701, 1702, and 1705
(International Emergency Economic Powers Act )
INDICTMENT
From on or about July 11, 1992 to on or about November 5, 1992, within the jurisdiction of the District of Columbia and elsewhere, the defendant ROBERT JAMES FISCHER, a United States person, did knowingly and willfully perform a contract in support of a commercial project in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), in that the defendant ROBERT JAMES FISCHER did enter into and perform a contract between the defendant, the Jugoskandic Company of Belgrade, Yugoslavia and Boris Spassky to participate in the "World Chess Championship Match" in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), for a cash purse of $5 million in United States currency and a percentage of revenues from the commercial gain as a result of the performance of the aforementioned contract.
( In violation of Title 50 USC ��1701, 1702, and 1705 and Executive Order 12810)
A TRUE BILL:
FOREPERSON.
________________________
Jay B. StephansDall
Attorney of the United States in
and for the District of Columbia
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United States District Court
for the District of Columbia
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UNITED STATES of AMERICA
vs.
ROBERT JAMES FISCHER
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ROBERT JAMES FISCHER
No Known Address
NO PDID
DOB: 3/9/43
To U.S. Marshall or any authorized agent:
YOU ARE HEREBY COMMANDED to arrest the above named person and bring that person before the nearest available magistrate to answer the charge(s) listed below:
Description of Charge:
50 USC ��1701, 1702, and 1705 INTERNATIONAL EMERGENCY ECONOMIC POWERS ACT
[stamp] received [date illegible] '93 U.S. Marshall
Ordered by Patrick U. Atteridge
United States Magistrate Judge
date 12/15/92
There are no Genious on own country!
Greg
All of these Photos and Articles from open Sourses on Internet!
Greg
Greg,
I would not be playing chess today without the inspiration of Bobby. He was a true genius who had serious mental problems, but he should not have been hounded by the Bush administration. Now that he is dead, I hope that America will recognize his true genius!
Yours in Christ, Sam
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/greatest-chess-photos?page=23
Thank you, Sam!
You know what? I posted that Info on this Public Forum! ...
And I was immediately Blocked to Post anything More on that Public Forum! So, I was unable to Post my last free funding from free Internet here! But you can see it all!
This is my First Post on Private Forum here, about wetted USCF and ... USA, on Case of Fisher Public Punishment, while USCF ripped Chess Book's Money from Ugoslavia at the same Time!
This is a shame! America hunting on own biggest superstar!This is insanity!
Nobody told us, why Fisher died so yearly? Why he looks so old? He was very strong before!
Greg
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You can find and read much more info at my Group here!
Feel free to join us!
Greg
A.E. Karpov gave a great Interview to Chess Life Magasine, recently...
A lot of new details about Fischer, Spassky, Korchnoi, Kampomanes...
Try to find it out, if you are not in USA!